Phil Wilson Light to Med Duty In M390 Steel

gunmike1 said:
I'm getting several of my M4 folders tested and if any come back in the 63-64 range they might put up a fight. I should get my Krein Ultimate Caper tested, I believe it is 63 RC M4, but it's .007" edge with a full height hollow grind make it a wicked slicer. That knife was my introduction to good M4 and I've been hooked ever since. All of these reports of M390 just kicking major butt has me really thinking of going for it over S110V for my Wilson custom when I get it because it seems to be similar to S90V in performance, but can be ran harder and gets sharper. That is a great sounding steel. M4 at 64 RC should be right with it, but M4 does rust if you don't keep oil on it and keep it dry. It is a good thing to have so many great steel choices with Phil Wilson as you know you are getting a great steel brought up to it's full potential. I'm a sucker for M4 (I have 5 knives in M4) but I may need to expand my horizons and try M390 or one of the other new steels that Phil is working with. With Phil's grinds no matter what steel you get the knife would flat out cut due to the great geometry.

Mike
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You will have to ask him about the steel choices. :)
 
knarfeng said:
You will need a lot of rope.

I couldn't tell the difference in edge retention between M390 at 60.5 and CPM M4 HS at 62.0 in cutting manila rope. Both of them held an edge almost twice as well as ZDP-189.

At 62 the M390 should totally blow away the CPM M4 HS that Spyderco is using.

Thanks for the loan Dennis.
Frank
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Surprising...interesting...informative...useful...leading to more spending... :D
 
JNewell said:
Surprising...interesting...informative...useful...leading to more spending... :D
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I found that to be true also, M390 at 60 RC will beat ZDP-189 at around 65 RC pretty easy.
 
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Ankerson said:
I found that to be true also, M390 at 60 RC will beat ZDP-189 at around 65 RC pretty easy.
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I hate to waste electrons, but I wanna say again: that flat-out amazes me. :eek: Really. Maybe I need to grab one of the 710-1 with the DLC coating (all that Roger has left now).
 
gunmike1 said:
I'm getting several of my M4 folders tested and if any come back in the 63-64 range they might put up a fight. I should get my Krein Ultimate Caper tested, I believe it is 63 RC M4, but it's .007" edge with a full height hollow grind make it a wicked slicer. That knife was my introduction to good M4 and I've been hooked ever since. All of these reports of M390 just kicking major butt has me really thinking of going for it over S110V for my Wilson custom when I get it because it seems to be similar to S90V in performance, but can be ran harder and gets sharper. That is a great sounding steel. M4 at 64 RC should be right with it, but M4 does rust if you don't keep oil on it and keep it dry. It is a good thing to have so many great steel choices with Phil Wilson as you know you are getting a great steel brought up to it's full potential. I'm a sucker for M4 (I have 5 knives in M4) but I may need to expand my horizons and try M390 or one of the other new steels that Phil is working with. With Phil's grinds no matter what steel you get the knife would flat out cut due to the great geometry.

Mike
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One downside that I am sure you have not considered is that if you are not sharpening knives as much, your sharpening skills are likely to deteriorate. :p Just sayin'...;)
 
i have the b.m.710-1 m390 but a folder in m4 at 64 would be fine with me. m4 is a little more forgiving on side loads. i believe it shades m390 on charpy index. corrosion is no problem for myself--my 2 gec pioneers & the 1 musk by gec are going on 14 months of use now--no rust only patina.
dennis
 
on_the_edge said:
One downside that I am sure you have not considered is that if you are not sharpening knives as much, your sharpening skills are likely to deteriorate. :p Just sayin'...;)
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The thing about Phil's knives is they will still cut great even if they are dull because of the way he grinds the blades optimized for cutting. :D

They sharpen up very fast and easy due to the extremely fine grinds.

Sharpening one of Phil's knives takes half the time than others because of this.
 
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