Photographing Traditional Knives

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I recently received this knife and sent the top photo to a friend. I got an email back that it was upset down. My first reaction was I must have flipped the photo. What he obviously meant was the writing on the shield made the knife look to be upside down. He thought the second photo looked much better.

Now, this only occurs if there is writing on the shield. What do all my fine feathered friends here on the porch think? Which photo looks proper, top or bottom? All opinions and castigations welcome.

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I don't know Alan. They both look right to me. I don't think I've ever given it much thought. Meaning, I guess it just doesn't matter. I'm more focused on the nice stag. :D:cool:
 
Thanks Bob. If the knife is fully open, it looks weird to me if the shield is right side up.
 
I think it really depends on the knife and the context in which you are photographing it. I have taken pictures similar to your top picture and then immediately scrapped it because I didn't like the look of either the shield or the writing (if any) being upside down. So I generally will play with different angles and positions and in doing so, I will end up with 50 pictures when I am just trying to take one...

I find that when the knife is open and in a fully horizontal position in the picture, the upside down shield becomes distracting. But then again, it very well could just be me and my own desire for the "perfect shot" as I usually notice it in my own pictures versus those of others. If it is a great knife presented in a great picture by someone else, I often do not even notice....
 
On GEC's website, they display knives many different ways.

For some historical perspective... In 100 year old catalogs of American made knives, illustrations of knives were shown many ways. Some were displayed like the first photo. Some were displayed lengthwise. Many were displayed like the second photo but rotated such that the handle was parallel to the bottom of the page. In montages for color plates or covers, they were sometimes displayed at odd angles.

But I'm definitely not a still life photography guy. I'm more interested in seeing what I need to see, not artistic photos.
 
I agree with Pàdruig. I the below example I think the top two pictures look more natural than the bottom one. But all look acceptable.


 
I recently received this knife and sent the top photo to a friend. I got an email back that it was upset down. My first reaction was I must have flipped the photo. What he obviously meant was the writing on the shield made the knife look to be upside down. He thought the second photo looked much better.

Now, this only occurs if there is writing on the shield. What do all my fine feathered friends here on the porch think? Which photo looks proper, top or bottom? All opinions and castigations welcome.

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I have spent many a sleepless night wondering about this myself Alan and I came to the conclusion to follow the Old Money Trail . You can only show a knife in or on a display in a store as it lies on the back spring . That way a Customer can read what it says on the shield . I likes the looks of your Top Photo better . But when there is Stag like yours , I hardly look at the shield anyhow . Have you bonded yet with your 73 ?????

Harry
 
Both are great photos. For some reason I dislike posting pics when the shield is upside down, if it has writing on it or has a specific orientation (like a Queen). No idea why :confused:
 
Is there a right way? I've actually had this same thought once before. Then, I forgot. Seriously, I wonder; who decides this kind of thing? It seems to me this has to be a conscious decision, but of course, I don't know for sure. Is the mark side proper when the knife is closed?
 
Some examples from old catalogs...

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I've been carrying it Harry but my knives don't get used much. I'm pretty sure it will replace my 73 jigged bone. Since it wasn't BNIT it makes the decision easy.
 
To me, both look right. The only way they look wrong is with the edge of the blade facing upward. So any knife with the blade closed to half open should have the shield right-side up, like your second photo, or with the blade half open to fully open, the shield should be upside-down.
 
Upside down text bugs me but that's not the only reason the second photo is better. Top photo knife is straight and lies parallel with the horizon, second photo is full of angles. Straight lines are boring, angles are more interesting. Why have the text upside down unless you absolutely have to?
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I think the examples Vaporstang (post #7) used illustrates the point better. Even with Case right side up it looks "wrong" to me.

Chief, the photo you referenced of mine is the best of both worlds for me. The lettering is correct, and the blade is oriented properly for me. Your comments about angles is dead on.
 
Upside down text bugs me but that's not the only reason the second photo is better. Top photo knife is straight and lies parallel with the horizon, second photo is full of angles. Straight lines are boring, angles are more interesting. Why have the text upside down unless you absolutely have to?
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Excellent advise that I will try to remember . I have always admired you photo compositions and never understood why .

Harry
 
When I use a knife the edge is usually pointed down and the shield is of no consequence... so... I don't know.

Both photos look good to me.
 
I'm okay taking photos of my Case knives if the writing on the shield is at any angle but completely upside down. I don't know what it is (OCD?), but I do not like the writing completely upside down. I typically take never take shots with the knife on the backsprings; I shoot overhead, so it's easier to have the knife at whatever angle I like.

BTW, I thought from the title of this thread that you were going to shed some light on how to take such exceptional photos as you post regularly. ;)
 
Upside down text bugs me but that's not the only reason the second photo is better. Top photo knife is straight and lies parallel with the horizon, second photo is full of angles. Straight lines are boring, angles are more interesting. Why have the text upside down unless you absolutely have to?
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Chief is exactly right...it's all about the angles. Diagonals, triangles, repeating patterns, these all create interest. Lines leading from or disappearing into the corners create interest as well.
Composition is the key. Sometimes it looks better if the shield can be read, sometimes it doesn't matter at all.
The same with blade etches, although they seem to jump out at you more if they look "wrong" by being upside-down.
I probably take 15 or 20 photos for every final picture I keep. Play with the composition until you find something pleasing to the eye, shoot from all angles, and cull through the results ruthlessly. There are some excellent photographers here on BF, and I try to draw ideas and inspiration from them.

In this one, the banner on the Tidioute is upside-down, but it doesn't affect the photo at all.
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Both blades and handles create interesting angles in the Talon pic.
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With the 15, the handle is more or less static, but the blade is angled and you can read the etch. The camera in the corner just adds filler for composition and is slightly blurred, as the knife is the focal point.
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Diagonal knife fills the picture, the etch can be read, and the book runs off the lower left corner.
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With the Big Jack, the log runs from corner to corner (almost) and extends off the picture, creating triangles with the pine straw underneath. Placing the knife at a slight angle just adds to the effect.
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