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PHOTON v. ASP, Salt water immersion
Ok, I started the ASP on part 4 of the Photon test- with Photons in tow. This is the salt-water dunking. The impact test just wasn't in the cards at 101°F in the shade- never mind at the water (so the fishing didn't happen either). I'll try to beat on the other ASP this week with stepping and throwing/dropping.
Anyhow, here's the scenario. Similar to the Photon pictures last week (I'll get the pics to Spark later today/tomorrow for posting of this test)- pint glass of SALT water from the Atlantic, same orange Photon I've become accustomed to beating on, a blue Photon with lanyard attached to the marker and the ASP clipped onto the Photon. The ASP has a binder clip on teh switch to keep it on. The initial pic will show all 3 right before their swim.
11:20PM Instantly upon dunking the ASP begins to bubble, as water goes in the bottom edge and fills the casing. Possibly a couple of bubbles from each of the Photons.
11:21 After 1 minute, the ASP is noticacbly dimmer- Photons: no change.
11:22 2 Minutes: ASP dimmer still- bubbling more (?), Photons- maybe slightly dimmer.
11:24 4 minutes- ASP is dead- no light at all. Photons still glowing brightly.
11:50 30 minutes into test, Photons are still glowing brightly- very little, if any, change from before test began. ASP spews some cloudy substance into the water- ewwwwww- then bubbles some more.
11:55 35 minutes: ASP is removed under the assumption it's not going to get well sitting in the water.
ASP drains into sink/paper cup, spewing some more substance that vaguely resembles battery acid or rust. Hit (not too hard) corner of ASP on the sink to remove as much water as possible. Hmmm- sink now has these neat stains that won't rinse off. Picture shows offal in sink and cup- unpleasant. Even more so if the stain is indelible and wife sees it.
Play with that later. Rinse with clean tap water. Hit some more.
12:00AM Use hair-dryer on ASP to try to dry it out. Light comes back on! Super dim, however- almost like when you can't shut the Photon off when it's soaked- it will when it's dry. This appears to be the same situation- where the leads and batteries are wet and minor contact is maintained. Pressing button yields little to no increase in light. More hair dryer. Seems ineffective- no changes.
12:15 Slightly bored. Drop Orange Krill into salt water for fun. Go read a book.
Time passes.
2:44AM Boredom sets in. Photons are still going strong in the salt water. The ASP is on the desk, barely alive. Decide I'm sleepy. Also decide if you've dropped your photon in salt water, after 3.5 hours, you're not going to find it anyhow. Thus, Photons are removed from water- emitting their own cloud of "stuff" as they go. Water has a nice orangey-tint from all of the lights. See the pic later on.
2:46 Hit Photons on edge of sink to get water out- use elastic and lanyard to generate more force. No damage and some water comes out- clear water, however. Run entire assembly (keyring, lanyad/clasp under fresh water to clean. Towel Dry. Lights won't shut off and are dim in the "OFF" poistion. Full brightness in the on position.
Krill suffered no problems, no leaks, no corrosion- just rinsed off and towel-dried. Works fine. Note to self: need to go fishing.
2:54 Since I can, I decide to open up Photons and dry (and take pictures) them out. Upon opening (see pics) note there is some corrosion along the pins of the orange and some right at the base of the bulb- not the leads (gold plated)- in the blue. All batteries show some corrosion. With water and tissues it comes off the batteries and lamp. Some remnants remain on case and switch, which LUDT takes off with aplomb. Photons are now dry and 99% visibly corrosion-free.
3:17 Re-assembly. Photons are back to their old selves- orange seems possibly a little weaker, but it wasn't a new battery by any means- probably had 2-3 days usage on them already before any testing was done. ASP still sits on desk- dim. Take a picture of all 3- Orange, Blue, then ASP on the right.
3:32 Phew! Stains come off the sink with some 409 and paper towels- she'll never know!
3:38 Photons resting in the OFF position, waiting for next punishment. ASP is still slightly glowing, as you'll see in the picture with the note and if you look close- the time is on the corner of the computer.
Bed.
8:30 ASP ever-so-slightly glowing- almost dead.
8:45 ASP is dead. Long live the ASP. Well, apparently not.
It would seem the ASP doesn't handle salt water immersion very well at all. I'm not going to waste my time/money seeing if fresh water will have the same effect on the other ASP I bought- I suspect it will allow the light to last longer than 4 minutes under water, but not in any significant way.
Ok, next question- looking for input here. Do we "test" the warranty procedure of ASP (cheesey IMO since I did do this on purpose) or do I dissect it and see what happened inside? You can see some rust/corrosion still on the case where it leaked. Opinions please.
I'll beat on the other ASP for impact and stomping fun later on. Back to work.
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Regards,
Tim
Nor'east Knives
There are two rules for ultimate success in life.
Never tell everything you know.
Ok, I started the ASP on part 4 of the Photon test- with Photons in tow. This is the salt-water dunking. The impact test just wasn't in the cards at 101°F in the shade- never mind at the water (so the fishing didn't happen either). I'll try to beat on the other ASP this week with stepping and throwing/dropping.
Anyhow, here's the scenario. Similar to the Photon pictures last week (I'll get the pics to Spark later today/tomorrow for posting of this test)- pint glass of SALT water from the Atlantic, same orange Photon I've become accustomed to beating on, a blue Photon with lanyard attached to the marker and the ASP clipped onto the Photon. The ASP has a binder clip on teh switch to keep it on. The initial pic will show all 3 right before their swim.
11:20PM Instantly upon dunking the ASP begins to bubble, as water goes in the bottom edge and fills the casing. Possibly a couple of bubbles from each of the Photons.
11:21 After 1 minute, the ASP is noticacbly dimmer- Photons: no change.
11:22 2 Minutes: ASP dimmer still- bubbling more (?), Photons- maybe slightly dimmer.
11:24 4 minutes- ASP is dead- no light at all. Photons still glowing brightly.
11:50 30 minutes into test, Photons are still glowing brightly- very little, if any, change from before test began. ASP spews some cloudy substance into the water- ewwwwww- then bubbles some more.
11:55 35 minutes: ASP is removed under the assumption it's not going to get well sitting in the water.
ASP drains into sink/paper cup, spewing some more substance that vaguely resembles battery acid or rust. Hit (not too hard) corner of ASP on the sink to remove as much water as possible. Hmmm- sink now has these neat stains that won't rinse off. Picture shows offal in sink and cup- unpleasant. Even more so if the stain is indelible and wife sees it.
12:00AM Use hair-dryer on ASP to try to dry it out. Light comes back on! Super dim, however- almost like when you can't shut the Photon off when it's soaked- it will when it's dry. This appears to be the same situation- where the leads and batteries are wet and minor contact is maintained. Pressing button yields little to no increase in light. More hair dryer. Seems ineffective- no changes.
12:15 Slightly bored. Drop Orange Krill into salt water for fun. Go read a book.
Time passes.
2:44AM Boredom sets in. Photons are still going strong in the salt water. The ASP is on the desk, barely alive. Decide I'm sleepy. Also decide if you've dropped your photon in salt water, after 3.5 hours, you're not going to find it anyhow. Thus, Photons are removed from water- emitting their own cloud of "stuff" as they go. Water has a nice orangey-tint from all of the lights. See the pic later on.
2:46 Hit Photons on edge of sink to get water out- use elastic and lanyard to generate more force. No damage and some water comes out- clear water, however. Run entire assembly (keyring, lanyad/clasp under fresh water to clean. Towel Dry. Lights won't shut off and are dim in the "OFF" poistion. Full brightness in the on position.
Krill suffered no problems, no leaks, no corrosion- just rinsed off and towel-dried. Works fine. Note to self: need to go fishing.
2:54 Since I can, I decide to open up Photons and dry (and take pictures) them out. Upon opening (see pics) note there is some corrosion along the pins of the orange and some right at the base of the bulb- not the leads (gold plated)- in the blue. All batteries show some corrosion. With water and tissues it comes off the batteries and lamp. Some remnants remain on case and switch, which LUDT takes off with aplomb. Photons are now dry and 99% visibly corrosion-free.
3:17 Re-assembly. Photons are back to their old selves- orange seems possibly a little weaker, but it wasn't a new battery by any means- probably had 2-3 days usage on them already before any testing was done. ASP still sits on desk- dim. Take a picture of all 3- Orange, Blue, then ASP on the right.
3:32 Phew! Stains come off the sink with some 409 and paper towels- she'll never know!
3:38 Photons resting in the OFF position, waiting for next punishment. ASP is still slightly glowing, as you'll see in the picture with the note and if you look close- the time is on the corner of the computer.
Bed.
8:30 ASP ever-so-slightly glowing- almost dead.
8:45 ASP is dead. Long live the ASP. Well, apparently not.
It would seem the ASP doesn't handle salt water immersion very well at all. I'm not going to waste my time/money seeing if fresh water will have the same effect on the other ASP I bought- I suspect it will allow the light to last longer than 4 minutes under water, but not in any significant way.
Ok, next question- looking for input here. Do we "test" the warranty procedure of ASP (cheesey IMO since I did do this on purpose) or do I dissect it and see what happened inside? You can see some rust/corrosion still on the case where it leaked. Opinions please.
I'll beat on the other ASP for impact and stomping fun later on. Back to work.
------------------
--
Regards,
Tim
Nor'east Knives
There are two rules for ultimate success in life.
Never tell everything you know.
