Picture request - Victorinox Classic vs Leatherman PS4

TKM

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Hu guys!!!

I'm about to order a Leatherman PS4 but I'm a little hesitant about the size (I've never own a keychain-sized-Leatherman)

So, can anyone provide size reference? I own a gerber Clutch and Victorinox Classic, If you have a shot of any of those together, it'll be really helpful.
 
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Here's a Rally and a P4.

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Here you go TKM. As you can see the PS4 is actually not much larger than the Classic, though it is a good bit thicker. It's not as large as the Clutch but, again, the PS4 is still a touch thicker than the Gerber.
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Thanks a lot maximus, L. Richard and Gareth! Very useful pics.

Gareth Uk, I take it you own both the Gerber and the LM, so If you don't mind, which one do you like better? Is the difference too big quality-wise? Thanks!
 
Thanks a lot maximus, L. Richard and Gareth! Very useful pics.

Gareth Uk, I take it you own both the Gerber and the LM, so If you don't mind, which one do you like better? Is the difference too big quality-wise? Thanks!






I have a PS4 that I just got. It is awesome, and if I had a choice I would take it over the Gerber in a heartbeat.
 
I just picked me up one today and I really like it a lot. My Dad saw it and now he wants one too :thumbup: I have a couple pics that show it with some quarters. This might help out too!

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Thanks for the pics BladeUser001, seems that the blue finish is very popular in the forums!
 
Thanks for the pics BladeUser001, seems that the blue finish is very popular in the forums!

One of the things Leatherman does extremely well, IMHO, is colors. I like them all so well I can't really say there's a favorite. Usually, it's whatever I'm looking at. Once, while filling out an on-line order for a Juice S2, when prompted for color selection I had a fleeting notion to book "surprise me." :D (in fact, checked "Storm Grey"). It rides my belt even now.
 
That's true znapschatz. Although I wish the coating/anodizing/whatever coloring technique they use would be more resistant.
 
That's true znapschatz. Although I wish the coating/anodizing/whatever coloring technique they use would be more resistant.

Yeah, I know what you mean. Mine aren't too bad, though, since I carry my Leathermen by sheath or suspension, in both ways avoiding keys, coins or other pocket finish hazards. Still, paint around the edges of my Juice are looking worn. Let's call it "character" :rolleyes: .
I have an impression, though, that the Squirt PS4 finish might be more durable
 
Those little Leatherman tools are nice looking, first time I've seen them anywhere.
I have an original Mil-spec black Leatherman with the blasting cap-crimp in the pliers jaws, plus a Mil-spec black Super-tool I've carried for years, love them both.
Thanks for posting this, now I want one but my wife thinks I have too many "toys" already, then again she has been wanting a U.S.-made knife of her own lately.
That brings up a question, is the Leatherman PS4 of U.S.A. manufacture, or outsourced elsewhere?
This is something I think she'd use if I bought it for her [and maybe she'd not be so down on my "toys" collection if I got her one], as long as it's made in the U.S.A..
 
Those little Leatherman tools are nice looking, first time I've seen them anywhere.
I have an original Mil-spec black Leatherman with the blasting cap-crimp in the pliers jaws, plus a Mil-spec black Super-tool I've carried for years, love them both.
Thanks for posting this, now I want one but my wife thinks I have too many "toys" already, then again she has been wanting a U.S.-made knife of her own lately.
That brings up a question, is the Leatherman PS4 of U.S.A. manufacture, or outsourced elsewhere?
This is something I think she'd use if I bought it for her [and maybe she'd not be so down on my "toys" collection if I got her one], as long as it's made in the U.S.A..

The PS4 is "made in USA" in that it conforms to US domestic content requirements. Although made and assembled at their plant in Oregon, Leatherman does use some components made or processed offshore.

Because there are manufactured items hard or impossible to find US made these days (some fastener types, for example), DC legislation makes allowances for this state of affairs by using percentage as a basis for making the claim. California has stricter standards which Leatherman couldn't meet with some of their products, so even though they are okay anywhere else, LT omits the "made in USA" designation for all of them.

Unless your wife is a fixit type of person, I think the PS4 does not provide an array of tools very useful to her. Unless she does field repair of jewelry or the like, the pliers would be of limited value, the scissors too small, and the file too coarse for fingernails.

May I suggest instead a Squirt S4? These can still be found new and have a better tool set for the casual user. The scissors are bigger and easier to use than those dinkies on the PS4, and the S4 has pretty good tweezers and a nail file My wife likes hers, although she had it for several months before learning there were more implements on it than scissors.
 
The PS4 is "made in USA" in that it conforms to US domestic content requirements.
...Although made and assembled at their plant in Oregon, Leatherman does use some components made or processed offshore.
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May I suggest instead a Squirt S4? These can still be found new and have a better tool set for the casual user. The scissors are bigger and easier to use than those dinkies on the PS4, and the S4 has pretty good tweezers and a nail file My wife likes hers, although she had it for several months before learning there were more implements on it than scissors.
Thanks for the reply and the information.
With Valentines' Day just around the corner my wife has been hinting at wanting a small knife to use at work.
One of her colleagues got a new Case knife for Christmas and was all-aglow whilst showing it off, making a big point of it being "Made in U.S.A.".
From the description, it sounded as if what her co-worker got is a small Case Canoe with pink bone handles and Damascus blades, and my wife knows real Damascus when she sees it.
My wife said a knife w/o Damascus would be to her liking, as long as it was in ANY color other than pink [I'm still getting a giggle remembering her say that, anything BUT pink!].
She really doesn't need all of the extras, I gave her my old Mil-spec Leatherman to use and she never carries it anymore claiming it's too big and too heavy.
I gave her an old 56011 Classic Swiss Army Knife with a single blade and small scissors, tweezers and toothpick, but the scissor spring had long ago snapped in half, just as most of my scissor-knives have done over the years.
She really doesn't use the scissors when they do work but does use a small sharp blade for cleaning up edges of ID Badges once heat laminated, so I was thinking something small would best suite her needs.
That reminds me of watches marked Swiss, that as long as the movement is Swiss the rest of the parts could be made anywhere, like Hong-Kong or China which seems commonplace, still not a Swiss watch to many that are into the purity-factor.
Thanks, I'll keep the PS4 and S4 on the list of possibilities, just not sure she'd be happy with the Assembled in elsewhere idea when she'd made it clear she wants a knife Made in the U.S.A..
 
Thanks, I'll keep the PS4 and S4 on the list of possibilities, just not sure she'd be happy with the Assembled in elsewhere idea when she'd made it clear she wants a knife Made in the U.S.A..

That's going to be tough. You can double check with Leatherman on this, but I believe their Micra, and possibly the S4, are 100% made in USA. My understanding is that Leatherman pliers are cast in Mexico, and files processed in Austria. Neither the Micra nor the S4 have cast parts, and their files are the fingernail kind. I don't know of any other small multi-tool that is all USA.

(Update) Leatherman CS replied to my question about this as follows:

Thank you for contacting us. All of our tools are manufactured and assembled in Portland Oregon.

I hope I was able to help.

Sincerely,

Toni Mekkers
Customer Support
Leatherman Tool Group, Inc.
Leatherman / LED Lenser
1-800-847-8665 X509
toni.mekkers@leatherman.com

I hope this helps.
 
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Yeah, I know what you mean. Mine aren't too bad, though, since I carry my Leathermen by sheath or suspension, in both ways avoiding keys, coins or other pocket finish hazards. Still, paint around the edges of my Juice are looking worn. Let's call it "character" :rolleyes: .
I have an impression, though, that the Squirt PS4 finish might be more durable

I had mine in my pocket for just a few hours and the finish started to show some wear so I took it off my key chain for the time being. I just like the look of it that I am not quite ready to add some "character" to mine just yet :D

Here is pic, I don't know how well it will show, but it rubbed pretty good where the half circle part is. That was only in my pocket for a couple of hours. I was worried that it was going to start taking off the finish. I guess I am babying it just a little too much. I will add it to my key chain tomorrow. ;)

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I Have The P4 And Really Like It. So The PS4 Would Be Even Better. But I Do Have A Micra For That.

Well, after a brief fling with a PS4, I find myself preferring the P4 instead. The PS4 scissors are annoying to access and so dinky small that they are almost not worth the bother. For that "advantage" you lose the small screwdriver and awl, both of which have been useful from time to time. Usually, I carry a keychain-size multi-tool to supplement a full size multi-tool, so if it is a SAK, the P4 is a match for pliers, and if Leatherman, a Micra (or lately a Style CS) for scissors. On the rare occasions I roll with keychain tool only, that would be a Micra, still IMHO providing the best tool set of the itty bitties.
 
Another consideration is that the Classic's scissors are vastly superior in terms of precision. The PS4 is also noticeably heavier on a keyring.
 
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