Pipe Hawk? Andy or Bobby?

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Andy or Bobby........Will you be making any of the pipe style hawks? I find some of this type to have very beautiful lines. Or will you be concentrating on the Ranger Style only?

Thanks
Rog

p.s. I like them too!
 
Andy,
This is a good question that "rdnzl" has brought up.
I have a pierced heart pipe hawk from RMJ forges on my "must buy" list. I know that there is quite alot of interest from others out there for this type (pipe) of hawk.

If I were you, I would make the American Tomahawk Company a market force to be reckoned with. I would offer several types/styles of hawks without limiting myself to just one type/style. It would be great to visit your site and to be blown away by seeing every type/style hawk ranging from entry/user level to near custom/collector pieces being offered.

I know that it's early for you and that you're just getting up & running so please don't take this the wrong way. I only want to give an opinion and to wish you success.
After all, the way I see it is, the more hawk choices out there, the better!!
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Good Luck Andy!!

--The Raptor--
 
We are TOTALLY going to have a Pipe Tomahawk!!! And the better news is that it is already in the Rogers' Rangers Series!!!! We have the RTB drawings and the prototype made.

We have started the project with two out of four Ranger Hawks.....the first are the Spike and Light Infantry!!! Now you know the third is a Pipe Hawk...what's the fourth??? You'll see!!!
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BTW, I happen to own one of RMJ's Hawks and it resides in my private collection......I have another on the way too....I love Ryan's work!

We are not stopping with Rogers' Rangers....we have lots of Hawks coming!!! LaGana's are in process...with special features that will blow your mind!!!

I will also reveal that we are in dialog with some of the most incredible designers and tactical trainers in the world for custom collaborations!!! So sit tight...the ride only gets faster from here!

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Andy Prisco,
Co-Founder, Manager
American Tomahawk Company
877-557-5200
http://www.americantomahawk.com
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[This message has been edited by Andy Prisco (edited 02-03-2001).]
 
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YEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!
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The more hawks the better!!

Also, it shows huge character on your part Andy, to offer up a good word on a newly acquired competitor.
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Good form!!

I can see that I'll be lurking here quite a bit in the near future.

--The Raptor--
 
Man! Am I just too stoked to be reading this, or is that a tomahawk in my pocket!

This is way cool.....I can't wait!
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"When loss and gain are alike to one, that is real gain.."
 
Kwaiken,
LOL.......Tomahawk in the pocket!!
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--The Raptor--

[This message has been edited by Raptor (edited 02-03-2001).]
 
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There was a guy at a rendevous in Missouri a few short years back that had his entire inventory of pipe 'hawks confiscated under a
"Paraphenalia" rule by the local police.
Be careful of the laws that pertain to this. Please.
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"VEGETARIAN".............
Indin word for lousy hunter.
 
Yvsa,
I'm hoping that was a joke, but I'm knowing that it wasn't!!
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What's this world coming to??

--The Raptor--

 
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Not a joke Raptor!!!
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Dead serious!
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The guy had some really nice well made hand forged 'Hawks for unusually good prices. The only ones confiscated were his "pipe" 'Hawks.
He got around the paraphenalia issue by leaveing the metal in the bottom of the bowl of the pipe with a small indent that showed the purchaser where it was to be drilled out with a small drill to make the pipe functional after the experience in Missouri.
The pipe bowl was complete as was the handle with the hole in it for smoking and a 3/32" or 1/8" drill in a hand drill would make it functional in just a minute or two.

It may have just been the local police flexing their muscles and wanting the 'Hawks for themselves.
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But it still remains an issue that could possibly jump up and bite a lot of 'Hawk manufacturers and hobbiests who sell their work to the general public.
I think the confiscation was very wrong and another imposition of our personal freedoms.

And on a similar issue an Indin "Pipe Carrier" and Holy Man had his Sacred Stone Pipe confiscated by the personell of an Oklahoma prison when It field tested positive for marijuana when he was taking It into the prison to conduct Ceremony for the Indin inmates.
Putting any mind altering substance in a Sacred Pipe would be like substituting Whisky for Wine in the Christians Communion Cups and would be just as _Sacreligious_ and is _Never Done_.
However the Sacred Sage that the Pipes are "sealed" with does test as an illegal substance on _Field Tests Only_ as do many other innocent plants us ndns use.
When the Pipe and the Holy Man's Tobacco was sent to a state lab it came back negative for any illegal drugs and after a long hassle was finally returned to the Pipe Carrier.
No apology,no nothing.
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And the case is similar because it was thought the Sacred Pipe was actually paraphenalia and not for the Intended Prayers it was meant to be used for.
And there's a lot more, but I have gotten off topic enough with this addition.
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>>>>---Yvsa-G@WebTV.net---->®

"VEGETARIAN".............
Indin word for lousy hunter.

[This message has been edited by Yvsa (edited 02-07-2001).]
 
I smoke a pipe. My Grandfather and Uncles smoked pipes and cigars. The sheriff smokes a pipe. The Chief of Police in town smokes a pipe.

I think this is legal in WI.OKI I don`t know about.

The question Andy is; do you smoke a pipe?

How do these hawks smoke?
Mellow, hot, cool, what?

Is the draw hole centered on the bottom of the bowl?

That`s a good start.

I`m not sure that I need another hawk/battle axe; a unique pipe, on the other hand piques my interest.
 
The pipe function of the Rogers' Rangers Pipe Hawk is not functional.....though, I do own a few Savinelli Pipes for what it's worth!! I love Pipes!!!
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Andy Prisco,
Co-Founder, Manager
American Tomahawk Company
877-557-5200
http://www.americantomahawk.com
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Hey! The pipe hawk is not going to be functional?????

That is not good!

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"KEEP IT SIMPLE"

"Lead, follow, or get out of the way"
 
Let me clarify......the std. Rogers Rangers' Pipe Hawk is a fully functional Hawk.....you just can't smoke through it. Though, if there were an overbearing demand for the smoking function to the Hawk, we would consider including that option...most folks simply never load the bowl with Tobacco or use period clay pipes rather than their Pipe Hawk.
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Andy Prisco,
Co-Founder, Manager
American Tomahawk Company
877-557-5200
http://www.americantomahawk.com
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I am sorry to hear that you are not planning on making the pipe functional. Since that's the case, you might want to omit a bowl, make the pipe solid & harden it for use as a hammer.

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Cheers,
Brian

He who finishes with the most toys wins.
 
I don`t see the point either. You have a pipe hawk or you don`t.
What`s the big deal to make it functional?
Form follows function.

It would be pretty stupid to buy something that you know will not work.

I have some really long pipe cleaners that I picked up in Williamsburg, VA for the long clays. They would work for the hawk, if you can get it together.

A piece of baling wire will at least clear the hole.

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Our Rogers' Rangers Tomahawks are fully functional camp and throwing Hawks. Smoking Pipe Hawks are also functional, but can certainly not take the abuse that a non-smoking Hawk can...the handle is weakened as a result of the bored hole or in some cases, split and re-bonded handle.

If the head moves on the haft or handle from abuse, the milled air hole in the head can lose alignment with the hole in the handle and therefore lose its ability to smoke...not a big deal, but frustrating.

There are many Pipe Tomahawks on the market, both custom and production, which are not smoke-able for these reasons.

I am not putting down Pipe Tomahawks...I love them!!! Benjamin Martin even used one!!!
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We just did not see an overwhelming need to include a smoking function in the Rogers' Rangers Pipe Tomahawk.

When a presentation/collectible version of a Pipe Tomahawk becomes available from the American Tomahawk Company, we would certainly feel more inclined to include a smoking function.






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Andy Prisco,
Co-Founder, Manager
American Tomahawk Company
877-557-5200
http://www.americantomahawk.com
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I have a lot of pipes. Some inherited. I have a lot of Norse battle axes and American Tomahawks. They are very close in use.
I have two RVN hawks. They have no combat history.

A pipe hawk, I do not have.

I would defer to Tom, as to authenticty of that.

It would be cool to stoke one up in the squad room of the sheriff`s dept.

Top this guys!
 
A smoke hole would not weaken the handle.
In fact, the old way of burning through it with a hot wire would fire harden it.
Well, sort of old way. 18th, 19th, cent.
 
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