Pirates With Cutlass And Main Gauche

[tedwca]

Toxie, I didn't say his use was illegal and I mentioned it was probably OK under Fair Use. I simply stated that his attitude is the SAME as the guy stealing your tv while you are at work. I'm not sure why you are trying so hard to defend him and I'm not your "bud". I could be if I knew you better, but I don't. Perhaps, you are the one that needs to step back and chill as none of this has to do with pirates and cutlasses.

The image the OP linked to could possibly fall under fair use, but it is in no way public domain, but I was referring to his attitude more than the actual images.

I'm not the one who called him out on hotlinking the image. I was calling him out on his attitude and ethics.

Feel free to PM me if you have further comments.

 

[godot]

Prior to 1648, piracy was at times linked with privateers. These were government navy ships authorized to engage in piracy. Some of these ships gave up government affiliations and became full time pirates.
To my knowledge, there were no companies engaged in making pirate ships and equipment. They would probably get their ships and equipment by theft from other ships. If this speculation is true, then they would use the same swords-guns-ETC.as the conventional Navy,
Again if this speculation is correct, then records exist showing the equipment that was issued to each ship. If someone looks up what kind of swords-guns-whatever were issued, we'd have a pretty good idea of what swords they used.
Just my 2$

 

[horseclover]

Sorry man, but game over. He's right - and you're wrong, even if his attitude sucks .

<shrug>
Hyperlinking and hotlinking are entirely different animals in terms of displaying images. Hotlinking images basically leaves the tap running into a bottomless drain. It is a difference between electing to use the tap or insist all use someone else's bandwidth whenever a thread/page is opened.

I vote for free internet service for all but the truth is that bandwidth costs money and few don't end up paying the bill one way poor another. How many reading this are getting internet service for free? (I know some do)
</shrug>

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[horseclover]

A further for instance and what I would regard as fair use in hosting a picture myself and attributing the source along with hyperlinks to to more information.

There's a hotlinked steampunk pirate ship image for you (of my own hosting) and more can be found where I gleeped that from.

http://www.navyandmarine.org/index.htm

With tags url=.... etc it is an everyday hyperlink, while the image is hotlinked. The hyperlink for the image is on (one of) my pages

http://files.myopera.com/3sails/albums/811446/spuyten_side.jpg

Free hosting is pretty cool, so I use it.

Here is an old cutlass thread
http://sbgswordforum.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=military&action=display&thread=11171

with lots of hotlinking and hyperlinks

Cheers

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[Toxie]

I'm not sure why you are trying so hard to defend him and I'm not your "bud". I could be if I knew you better, but I don't. Perhaps, you are the one that needs to step back and chill as none of this has to do with pirates and cutlasses.

Well, you came off more then a bit condesending. I was mostly replying to horse reguardless, you just supported his position so I assumed you thought the same since you didnt correct him yourself. I'm not defending him at all FYI (as Ive said many times), I'm simply correcting the misinformation posted about coptright (since I knew the answer). Bud's real common 'round here. Forgive a human his foiables!

(I would have PM'd. but us lowly non-payers can't. Back to pirates, who also used boarding axes right?)

To horse, its clearly covered in the caselaw - its about a hotlinked picture (and I know the difference bud ). Legally, its A OK. As is steampunk! Either way, I'm out. I guess everyone is the poorer for this thread .

 

[horseclover]

Cool dude. I'll take another one of them rum swizzlers instead of a bud though. We are all poorer unless we got free internet out of it. I know BF pays for bandwidth.

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Bandwidth Theft Today

 

[Uath]

Come on guys, I was just having fun. I'm a 52 year-old retired teacher and I've never stolen anything in my life.

"They deserve it. They're probably suck-heads anyway."

Give me a break. Do you think I'm serious????
All I did was post historical images I got off of Google. I have my own website, with my drawings and ghost-photos. People steal them all the time. If you don't want your pictures used, don't publish them on the web. I do not care.

My point is, that pirates were active during the 1600's. During that time fighting with rapier and main gauche was very normal and studied. Some of these guys substituted the sturdy cutlass for the fragile, longer rapier, and probably used the two handed technique that was all the rage during that time.

Besides, anyone who's a photographer is probably a retard anyway. I say steal their images and then gut them like fish.

Wankers...

 

[FortyTwoBlades]

The rapier wasn't fragile, nor was it even a word as specific as what we now think of it. The term "rapier" historically referred more to the style of hilt than that of the blade, and while they had a predilection for thrusting, MANY were capable of strong cuts as well. And fighting with a dagger in the off-hand predates the period of the main gauche by quite a bit. And even in the 1600s there were more "regular" daggers around than those specialized for such usage.

 

[tedwca]

Besides, anyone who's a photographer is probably a retard anyway. I say steal their images and then gut them like fish.

Wankers...

Not the best way to make a better impression. If you think being a teacher is hard try making a living as a photographer. Teachers have it easy...

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt a assume you are joking.:foot:

Photographers HAVE to post images online in order to promote themselves. It's on of the few ways they can afford to market, but then people feel it's OK to steal the images for their own use. Read this

 

[FortyTwoBlades]

Not to be rude, I think that this point of debate would be best continued in a separate thread in W&C. It has very little to do with the original topic.