P'KAL C103GP Info please

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I've seen many eBay auctions for the Spyderco P'KAL C103GP but can't find any data on it on the Spyderco web site/catalog. Someone please point me at some 'official' web page please.
 
Don't think they have a web page for it yet, but download their catalogue, I think it's on there.
 
You should skim the Spyderco Forums on Spyderco's website. The P'Kal is old news there... sounds like a great knife. Slight curve like a hawkbill, with a removable wave feature, caged ball lock for easy disengagement, G-10 with full skeletonized liners, wire clip and VG-10 steel. What's not to like? I plan on picking one up one of these days.
 
Hey Groos--this knife is designed for a specific type of self-defense. For that, it is superb. It's built like an expensive custom, with tolerances and materials all top notch.

It can be used for the more mundane tasks to which most of us apply our knives--but here its practicality is dubious.

I have one and carry it daily, even thought the violent crime rate where I live is about one RCH above zero. I carry in another pocket a different knife for the common tasks.
 
I had Sal demo it at blade. Very nice knife for self defense but not practical for EDC use. (IMHO)

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v-man said:
I had Sal demo it at blade. Very nice knife for self defense but not practical for EDC use. (IMHO)

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If a 3" full flat grind near-wharncliffe (easy sharpening), with hawkbill tendencies, a bulletproof lock, G10 and steel liners and a handle that can be gripped in just about any manner isn't practical, I don't know what is.:D

If you're talking about how the Wave looks, you could always take it off.
 
OK, found it on page 19 of the 'Product Guide' thanks.
It is a different looking knife.

I am very interested in wave opening knives like this.
Thanks for the feedback.
 
v-man said:
I had Sal demo it at blade. Very nice knife for self defense but not practical for EDC use. (IMHO)

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Yes it is. I carried mine at work for several days before sending it to friend. Worked better as a utility knife than most of my other knives.
 
smcfalls13 said:
Yes it is. I carried mine at work for several days before sending it to friend. Worked better as a utility knife than most of my other knives.
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I disagree. Unless you're doing pulling draw-cuts, the knife is uncomfortable to use for basic working tasks. It just isn't designed for this. It can be used as a utility knife, but there are much better choices for this purpose.
 
eojk said:
I disagree. Unless you're doing pulling draw-cuts, the knife is uncomfortable to use for basic working tasks. It just isn't designed for this. It can be used as a utility knife, but there are much better choices for this purpose.
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Kind of a compromise then. Most knives are tools first and SD second, whereas the Pickle is SD first and a working tool second. :)
 
eojk said:
I disagree. Unless you're doing pulling draw-cuts, the knife is uncomfortable to use for basic working tasks. It just isn't designed for this. It can be used as a utility knife, but there are much better choices for this purpose.
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I'm in the minority then.:o

For my own purposes, I like a blade that be closed quickly and easily, and the the new BB lock serves that purpose. Also, I like wharnies and hawkbills, because they make superior utility knives(again, my opinion). I don't care for "handed" locks either, which leaves me with lockbacks and the bb lock. Though I do admit, I use draw cuts more often.

For me, there really isn't a better choice. The only knife that comes close to a straight utility knife is the Yojimbo, which is too big to carry, and the Dodo, which I was stupid and sold:p

Though it's apparent I'm the extreme minority, so let me say it would be nice to see an upside down P'Kal(to be optimized for more conventional grips), with no wave, for less violent uses.
 
smcfalls13 said:
I'm in the minority then.:o

and the Dodo, which I was stupid and sold:p

Though it's apparent I'm the extreme minority, so let me say it would be nice to see an upside down P'Kal(to be optimized for more conventional grips), with no wave, for less violent uses.
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First, I adore my Dodo. It's such a good design. As for a more utilitarian P'kal, I think the new Superhawk will work exceedingly well. The P'kal is absolutely ideal for its intended use, but as such, will not work well in mundane utilitarian applications.
 
I think the Pikal may have ungone a minor design change I ordered mine when I first saw it advertised then shortly afterward they sold out and disappeared for a while. Now they are back but I noticed the pic of the Pikal on another dealers sight had another screw toward on the bottom rear (6 vs the 5 on mine) also the blade pivot srew seems to have been moved closer to the tip (front end bolster) where mine seems to be noticably further back. Any info or speculation ?
 
I have a question... does the wave feature remove with a screw? and if it does whats left in its place? is there a diagonal tunnel running through the blade? can you see the hole where the wave feature was? I think Id love this knife but have no interest in wave feature. UPDATED QUESTION: okay I just read that the wave "peg" is threaded in... PLEASE tell there is a replacement screw to fill the hole!!!! if so I will order today, if not, Im wondering if the hole will bother me and collect gunk???
 
love4steel said:
I have a question... does the wave feature remove with a screw? and if it does whats left in its place? is there a diagonal tunnel running through the blade? can you see the hole where the wave feature was? I think Id love this knife but have no interest in wave feature. UPDATED QUESTION: okay I just read that the wave "peg" is threaded in... PLEASE tell there is a replacement screw to fill the hole!!!! if so I will order today, if not, Im wondering if the hole will bother me and collect gunk???
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Nope, no replacement screw is provided. Of course, if you're 100% sure you don't want to use the wave, there is always the option of grinding the wave pin flush with the spine. There's also an off chance that the screw size is one for which you can easily find blind set screws in a hobby shop. Would not bet on that though. Third option would be filling the hole with grey RTV silicone. Would keep the gunk out, eliminate any chance of moisture getting in there and causing rust, but could be picked out if you changed your mind, or wanted to sell the knife.

From a collectors standpoint, the P'kal is very well made and contains enough innovative new features to make it an interesting piece. However, in my opinion, unless you are skilled in that style of SD, or eager to learn it, and intend to carry it primarily as a weapon and only use it occasionally as a tool, or you're carrying a knife just to look like "Billy Badass" and don't really use it for much of anything, then the P'kal is a poor choice as a "user". As always YMMV, but at least for the tasks I perform with my EDC knives, almost any other 3" bladed Spyderco I have ever had in my hands felt more natural and would be more comfortable to use than the P'kal.
 
great info deacon - thanks!
hey sal.. the replacement screw would be a nice touch no? ps. no royalties are necessary, just #1 of that production will be enough:D
spyderco is the most innovative as usual
 
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