Plain YCS arrives....

Yvsa

Yvsa

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Well the plain YCS finally made it to Catoosa.
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The khukuri is very well done with fine fit and finish of the steel mountings and this one even has the habaki bolster. And the hardness is right up there with the weight a bit lighter at 1 Lb and 9 1/2 ounces.
Oh and it has the standard eye shaped keeper which is alright since the star is more difficult to execute in steel.

The disapointment is still with the small tools.
When I 1st opened it I thought that they were gonna be okay because I saw the awl handle sticking up in the middle, but the others had the standard karda and chakma handles I soon
discovered.
And it does have a standard karda and chakma.
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The karda is about the same size as the small one in the regular set and has a nice recurve.
The chakma is one of the very best I have ever seen, bar none, as it is hard enough to work the blade without chewing it up like so many do.
If it was as long as the longest one in the regular set I could just sharpen it but it's close to the same size as the karda.
The 3 cornered awl is almost an exact copy of the original and has the sharp point instead of being blunt like they have been lately.
I have enough small tools or I can just leave it alone and put it in my truck for the no care work khukuri it's made to be.
Or if I really want the original tools I can make my own so there's a few options.

So we're closer but no cigar as yet. But when you're dealing with a different langage and culture from so far away as well as the kamis having their own idea's it becomes difficult.
The battle is now Uncle Bill's and I'm curious to see just how long it's gonna take to get the kamis to understand such a simple, to us, thing.
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Oh yeah, this one is done by the kami with the 2 flags mark, Durbya isn't he?
Anyway I am really impressed with the rig as a whole. He does excellent work!!!!


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Thanks for the report, Yvsa. I am holding back until all the bugs get worked out, then I am going to order a plain Chiruwa YCS (Is that forbidden? I know you're not a fan of chiruwa handles.) from Uncle Bill. I seem to recall someone mentioning that the edge was still a bit thinner than what you had specified, and that the plain ones were missing the fullers; did they fix all that?

 
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Everything is fine except for the 2 kardas.

The fullers are beautifully executed on the khukuri and the edge has been thickened just enough.
The one I used the other day had the improved edge and I was chopping with a hard twist at the end to pop the chips out of the very hard Oklahoma oak.
There was no problem at all except the handle was more round than egg shaped.

I don't like the chruwa handles for a couple or three reasons.

!st. They don't really give anymore strength the way the khukuris are designed to begin with.

2nd. They hurt like hell when chopping in very hard wood due to the vibration. And I have a very popular high end knife that's the same way no matter the hype the company puts out.
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3rd. The handle slabs cannot be put on close enough on the khukuris to not have any gaps that can pinch.
This is due to the forged tang not being perfectly flat.

4th. The natural materials used almost always shrink causeing even more of a mismatch between the tang and the handle slabs.

5th. And did I mention they hurt like hell when chopping very hard wood due to the vibration?
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YMMV
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Really I don't see any advantage at all with the chiruwa handles. The people of Nepal have developed and used the same system for hundreds of years without any problems so why change now?
Again YMMV.
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Indin word for lousy hunter.
 
I know which high-end knife you're talking about. I have one of them also.

Everything you said about full tang handles is true. I guess I don't mind the vibrations as much, but if it got unbearable I could wrap the handle with paracord or tennis grip tape. Although I have never experienced a failure with the spike tangs, the extra mass of the full tangs just seems more substantial and reassuring to me--it's probably largely a psychological bias to me, admittedly.

However, on smaller, lighter khukuris I always prefer the spike tang.

Thanks again for the report, and thanks for giving us a new design!
 
Yvsa,
Thanks for the report. I have gotten one of the Sanu made regular YCS models, and it very quickly has become by favorite Khukhuri of all that I own. I look forward to getting one of the perfected Plain Jane models to use without guilt. Although I haven't felt all that guilty since I have not abused my baby. Just light cutting tests so far. Very solid cutter for as light as it is. That is one of the things I like. It cuts biggerr that it really is. Good to hear these progress reports. The excitement mounts.

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X-head the big reason I don't like the vibrations is that I have had the three carpal bones in my right wrist removed due too too many years of abuse in the machine shop and severe arthritis.
The vibration hurts
me!!
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That's why Uncle Bill and me sometimes spout off about you younger guys and gals taking better care of yourselves. I used to believe I was indestructable too.
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Archangel et al:
I think it's gonna be up to the guys who want the plain YCS to take it from here.
I have the steel one I can use and abuse and it will probably stay in one of the vehicles afer it gets blued or otherwise
patinated.
And I have the one nice one I can use and use hard since I get a really nice feeling in using such a beautiful knife for utility purposes.
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And I have the original which will be kept in pristine condition for showing off. Shameful of me.
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That makes 3.
And I can't afford any more. And it's not just the money, but trying to explain to my sweet wife Barb just why I need more than three YCS Khukuris.
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I understand that Gelbu is on another buying mission and won't be back for a little while.
What I would do is wait until Gelbu gets back and then send Uncle Bill a very detailed e-mail as to what you want since Gelbu will be more able to get through to the kamis and to Pala exactly what's needed.
And then if it doesn't come in correctly let Uncle Bill sell it at a discount and tell the kamis that until they get it right the YCS will be sold at a loss.
That will wake them up I should think.
It's very difficult to try to convey just what we want due to the language and cultural differences let alone the distance
involved.
And I am going to write an e-mail telling how disappointed I was that my little brothers in Nepal didn't make me exactly what I wanted.
And since I now have over 30 khukuris they know I am a good customer and they will be sorry that I was disappointed and perhaps get the plain YCS done right.
But that's about the best and all that I can do.
And I wish I could do more.
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Yvsa:
My little Sirupati is still in the limelight, but I am concerned that you have been disappointed. Purely out of friendship, and the sentiment of keeping the spirits of these blades from feeling shame, I am willing to accept any of your Khukuris which have been less than satisfactory. As a freshly infected HIKV patient, I can praise them, polish them, and tell them they are perfect, and they will know it is true because they will know they have found a home with a greenhorn. Shipping address is 212 Be.....Yvsa??? Yvsa... Now where'd he go??? Sheeesh!
 
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Walosi has that yonegi Tsimi been talkin to you?
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Sounds just like something he would say.
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And the khukuri is fine, it's just the 2 kardas that were supposed to have been like the originals without inlayed handles.
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Yvsa,

You didn't say anything about the furniture. Is it steel? What kind of finish? Sounds like we are getting toward something I could use. I agree though, the proper tools are essential.

Gregg
 
Walosi,
What a con! How can YOU try to Scam that poor old NDN out of any K's!You should be ashamed,poor old NDN ,only has 30(that he admits too)! He,on the other hand "must" be ready to send me a few for"Research"(sounds better than that "fake" desease)!Yvsa,really enjoy your output on the various K's you have.
jim(the poor,unappreciated "Researcher").
 
My Dear Mr. Clifton:
Sir, I fear you misunderstand my motives. I am only interested in the spiritual well-being of the blades which, being "not perfect", could suffer irrep..irepp..bad karma due to open criticsm in these forums. While I am not against modern medicine (Lexol and Flitz), I am deeply concerned that "research" may reduce the possibilities of sheltering these disturbed blades in my caring facility. I am therefore announcing the formation of a new organization, PETK (Not an offshoot of PETA - in fact we shoot at PETA).The purpose of this group will be to secure as many "slightly imperfect" blades as possible, to save them from the cold, harsh and unfeeling "research" that they could be subjected to if left to less caring individuals. There will be additional announcements forthcoming as soon as our committees muddle, er..decide membership requirements, dues, fees, and tax dodges.
 
Walosi,
"MOTIVE"!I'm sure the other members(my friends & Fellowship members) can see thru your SCAM!"Unappreciated K's" ,Surely you jest! Rus, you need to take this,this, "Snakeoil salesman"(hee!) into the mountains for a talk!Bill, we need another UBDOTD, to clear our minds!
jim(the "Rightous" Researcher)
 
Uncle Bill,
How about a Plain Jane YCS as a UBDOTD? That would make me all wiggly inside. HeHeHe

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To reiterate: get out the waders, it's getting too high for hip boots

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Gregg the furniture is steel and Very Well done _considering_ that steel is much harder to work with than brass or silver!!!!
It's not perfect, but it is acceptable for me.
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(And after re-reading my 1st post I did mention the steel furniture.
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The butt cap is about 0.070" or a tad more than 1/16"
thick!!!
If the kami would have had Gelbu's instruction I believe this one would have had a better chance of comeing out complete with all the YCS tools but there still might be some snafus until the kamis completely understand what a YCS-2
is.
Like I sorta said before,
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2"> "Wait until Gelbu gets back from his buying trip and order the YCS-2 with simple detailed instructions."</font>
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Something like this should get what you want.
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( I want a YCS khukuri with the fullered blade and No inlay in the handle.
I want the brass and copper inlay in the Sword of Shiva on the khukuri.

I want steel mountings on the khukuri and scabbard.

I want the 3 cornered awl.

I want the 2 YCS kardas with no inlay in the chiruwa handles.).......

And if you want to be ensured that you get the habaki bolster put that in as well or you might not get it.
I wasn't quite that detailed which may have led to me getting a karda and chaka and awl instead of the 2 standard YCS karda's.

I think the kami with the 2 flag insignia is Durba, but not for sure, anyway he's the one that made this YCS.
He stopped the single fuller a bit away from the habaki style steel bolster which is one touch I like a great deal.
When I made the model I neglected to put the habaki style bolster on it and consequently the others I have don't have it.
(The kamis take everything very literally!!!!)
Now out of the 30 some H.I.Khukuri's I have there are 2 that have the habaki bolster.
The other one is my BGRS.
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I think that's one of the really great improvements that the khukuris have seen this last year.
They do make or a much more secure scabbard without it being overly tight when drawing the khukuri.

I have a couple of the original Kumar Karda's that have the partial tang and I found that one of those fits perfectly in one side of the rear pouch, not what I really wanted, but acceptable since I do have the one original that I use with no regrets.
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I have long wondered how a khukuri rig would stand up to no care other than sharpening, just like the Nepalese do theirs.
This steel mounted YCS will be my sorta no care khukuri if I can stand to do it.
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I will blue or otherwise patinate the blade and steel before I start throwing it around.

And guys, especially Tsimi and Walosi, I am gonna keep all my khukuri's for now.
I have plenty of them to do my own research and in the future if more new models are required......, well I will just have to have them as well.
I know y'all will
understand.
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However one of these years I might consider sending them along to people who would respect and use them for other types of research.
But there will be a small fee for houseing and caring for the khukuris while in my care.
With a small additional fee to offset the cost of maintaining them properly which includes the materials like belts, hones, buffing compound, and elbow grease, as well as the time spent in doing the care and maintainence.
Y'all have to realize that now and then the yonegi side of myself, mainly the Scots/Irish, comes popping out of somewhere to protect this old ndn from scams and research.
And since the H.I.Khukuri's, after being in my special care, will not depreciate in value that means the small fee will equal the original sellng price, but I will be good enough to include shipping and insurance on the smaller khukuris, ie, those that weigh less than 1 1/2 Lbs.
Now isn't that white of me?
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