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Plans for Scandi or Convex Grinds?

Discussion in 'Carothers Performance Knives' started by NiceNife, Jun 11, 2018.

  1. NiceNife

    NiceNife Gold Member Gold Member

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    May 19, 2018
    I’m looking for a go-to bushcraft/survival knife. People referred me over here and after doing some research, the Field Knife in 3V seems ideal for my week-long, wet, backpacking trips in the rainy and snowy seasons. How does this knife perform with bushcrafting tasks like batonning, feathersticking, and light chopping? Are there plans to make any knives in a Scandi or convex grind? I really like convex for bushcrafting.
     
  2. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    I will have to use my search-fu to dig up some of Nathan’s musings on the subject matters which you have asked but so far everything which has come from Mr. Carothers shop has been in saber grind (apart from his Potato Knife / Skinner?). COK makes and sells tough SOB utilitarian knives which offer the best bang for the buck, giving any other knife including utilitarian customs a robust challenge for earning their keep!
     
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  3. NiceNife

    NiceNife Gold Member Gold Member

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    May 19, 2018
    Huh? COK? SOB?
     
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  4. never.truly.lost

    never.truly.lost Gold Member Gold Member

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    Dec 13, 2015
    Have no fear with the flat/saber grind on the FK for bushcraft use.
    I use mine for general purpose use as well as carving/feathering/bushcraft tasks with zero issues.
     
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  5. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    CPK: Carothers Performance Knives. COK was a typo!
     
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  6. NiceNife

    NiceNife Gold Member Gold Member

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    May 19, 2018
    You’re making me want one now. Has there been an announcement on when the next batch is being released? Will it be this month or this year?
     
  7. never.truly.lost

    never.truly.lost Gold Member Gold Member

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    Dec 13, 2015
    FK is retired/no more being; made but there is a 2.0 that will eventually happen (no timeline specific as far as I know).
     
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  8. TommyGun56

    TommyGun56 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 29, 2014
    We'll run the Field Knife 2 and the 6" Utility Fighter after the current batch of HDFK are finished. We'll run MC and HC after the batch of BC are finished. A medium size knife and a chopper can run through here concurrently. We're in a lull now as we were building up inventory for Blade, replaced a machining center and are building pre-orders but we'll get back into full swing again by the end of summer.

    Short answer: the FK2 and the UF are both on the schedule but won't start cutting chips for ~ two months.
     
  9. NiceNife

    NiceNife Gold Member Gold Member

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    May 19, 2018
    Thanks for the straightforward response. I guess I’ll hold off on buying a 2nd hand FK for $500 and wait the few months for the FK2.
     
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  10. NiceNife

    NiceNife Gold Member Gold Member

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    May 19, 2018
    You guys started taking preorders about two months before cutting HDFK chips. Will you be taking preorders for the FK2 soon?
     
  11. never.truly.lost

    never.truly.lost Gold Member Gold Member

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    Dec 13, 2015
    Regardless of the price the original FK is pretty spot on. Not too sure how you could make it better other than availability; grips/size/ergos/geometry areball anyone could ask for as a belt knife.
     
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  12. NiceNife

    NiceNife Gold Member Gold Member

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    May 19, 2018
    That’s what they said about the EDC and they somehow improved upon it. I’m sure the old FK is a perfect knife for most, but my point is that I’d rather wait for the updated model than to pay almost double the original price for an older one, which is what people are selling it for nowadays.
     
  13. Standard78

    Standard78 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 25, 2015
    I agree 100%.
    The FK is hands down the most comfortable and useful fixed blade I have owned so the new FK 2.0 will have some big shoes to fill.

    The FK performs well in those tasks and is one hell of a carver with it’s factory edge.
    This isn’t my best or most detailed trystick, but the FK made it a breeze and didn’t give me any hot spots like most knives.
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    As far as convex edges go, there’s enough meat on these to add your own if you prefer them.
    There’s an Ask Nathan a Question thread here that you may want to scroll through to see if he has answered your Scandi question.
    The chances of damaging a Scandi edge may be too high of a risk and not worth offering on knives that are made for hard use.
     
  14. TRfromMT

    TRfromMT Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 4, 2016
    ^^^One time I saw a video of some guys shooting wild hogs that had overrun (and were destroying) a cattle ranch, decimating the land and the cattle. They were shooting the hogs from a helicopter. Right, wrong, or otherwise, it was an amazing thing to see a guy hit a small target running through the bush from a flying platform. One guy was especially adept at this, and the guy narrating the video simply said, "He knows how to run a rifle." Somehow the phrase "...run a rifle" really stood out. It was significant. The way he said it conveyed there is a lot to it, and running a rifle, well, is an art. Like saying "Mario Andretti can run a race car." or "Beethoven can run a piano."

    When it comes to a try stick, @Standard78 "knows how to run a knife." I can't say it better than that. The man knows how to run a knife.
     
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  15. Standard78

    Standard78 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 25, 2015
    Wow! Thank you for the compliment bud!
    I try my best with each one that I make and I can only hope to be in the same league as carvers like Mors Kochanski.
    That man can whip up a nice trystick in half the time it takes me!
     
  16. Hard Knocks

    Hard Knocks Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 1, 2012
    :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

    Nailed it T. I bought a big knife from him some time ago and always tease him that it was already 'trained' when I got it, that's why it performs so good ;) :D

    If I wanted a convex field knife, I'd throw a slack belt on the grinder and convex the apex a bit. Just keep working at it from there as needed over time. Or if I just couldn't live without a full regrind, I'd send it to Razor's Edge Knives. The original FK is one of my favorite models from any company, and it performs pretty dang good, to say the least, as it comes.
     
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  17. Standard78

    Standard78 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 25, 2015
    It took a bit to find the photo but here it is.
    Even though these Choppers are huge, they’re quite nimble and easier to use with a nice choil.
    I need to get off my butt and break the Medium Chopper in.
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  18. NiceNife

    NiceNife Gold Member Gold Member

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    May 19, 2018
    Pretty amazing work there. So good that it looks machined!
     
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  19. Standard78

    Standard78 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 25, 2015
    That one was a scrap piece of kiln dried pine dowel so it was relatively easy to work with other than being fragile.

    If you ever want to get into doing trysticks, I would highly recommend using hickory drumsticks because of their strength and fiber density. They’re tough, but easier than oak.
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  20. NiceNife

    NiceNife Gold Member Gold Member

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    May 19, 2018
    Now that’s just beautiful. What scandi knife is that? Is that LT Wright?
     
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