Please explain the appeal of the Tank Buster.

theres a few things to consider when looking at the differences between the tank buster, the hell razor, the satin jack, and the badger attack.

I'm doing all of the comapison with the assumption that the amount of metal directly behind the edge will be same for each knife.

compared to the hell razor - it has the tac handle wich has heavier palm swells, and a skull crusher pommel that is a little less versatile then the sf handles pommel, but pointier and a little better at breaking things. The hell razor is 3/16 with a saber grind that terminates roughly at the center of the blade, where as the tank busters saber grind is very very high, almost a full flat or full convex (depending on what its going to be). at the same thickness, the tank buster will have a better cutting geometry (weaker), where as the hell razor will have a better chopping geometry (stronger). The hell razor has a longer edge, but less curve to the belly, making the hell razor better at long stroke slicing, but the tank buster better at skinning and any application requireing a heavy belly curve.

Compared to the satin jack - because it has a taller blade, and the same high saber grind, it has a slightly better cutting geometry. the shorter blade is easier to carry and conceal, and it has the slight recurve and larger belly to help in cutting performance. because the satin jack is longer, it will be better at chopping, though the height of the tank buster may help with that a little.

Compared to the badger attack - it is taller, wich will mean it will have a better cutting geometry, but will require the object to seperate more when the knife penetrates. I'm not sure if there will be any difference in chopping performance because of the reletively small difference in forward weight created by the taller heigth, but shift in high saber geometry.




my feelings on the tank buster - I hate choils. I hate them even more on short blades. I've used short knives with recurves and even small choils, and it always got cought. Because most of what I cut is bags and plastic and bunches of packing paper, i need to be able to use the edge from tip to ricasso without any interruptions in cutting ability, otherwise part of the material is gaurenteed to hang up on it.

If I had to choose between the tank buster and the badger attack - I'd choose the badger attack. given similar weights, I'd rather have the less tall blade profile for general user ease. I've found that taller blades are more akward and require more thought and skill to use for general applications.

While I like the recurve portion of the blade, I beleive that it is literally completely wasted by the presence of the choil, since the ability to just put the edge on the material and saw through it quickly is removed, since you have to watch where the material is to keep it from hitting the choil. to me, the benefit of the recurve is not extending the belly portion of the blade, but rather creating an area where the material is naturally held in place during a slicing action, making it more user freindly and requiring less active controll of your cutting action and the position of the material being cut.



SO.... unless you need it for skinner, you want a slightly more acute cutting geometry then the batac, or require a shorter geometry keeping the sjtac and hr out of your requirements, I'd go with the sjtac. I prefer the sjtac over the hell razor because of its more compact, and I dont need the added metal inherent in a half saber grind, or the versatility of the sf handle.

well, in a perfect world buy all of them. In a limited world, I think the sjtac has the best of everything.
 
That all being said, I'm not sure its fair to compare it to the sjtac, hr or force1, since they are all considerably longer and larger.

I think the tank buster is better compared to the batac, pdtac, nark, and possibly the mini eu17 - though thats essentialy a custom/variant/one off and difficult to get ahold of. lol, but then - narks and f1's arent all that common either.

The batac is a general all purpose blade that is a balance of cutting geometry, chopping ability, and strength. The .220 version will be stronger and a better chopper, but with a noticable difference in cutting performance.

The Nark is better suited for multi tasking with different materials, where strength is a requirement due to its lower grind. with the normal version at 3/16" thick, its a strong blade thats short and compact, with the aditional function of the serrated upper edge. The thinner version at 1/8" is has better cutting and penetrative geometry - but its still built for strength because of its low saber grind. it would be better for edc use then the 3/16" version, but not as good at prying.

The pdtac is a tank. its built almost solely for strength (assuming its geometry is similar to the original 3rd gen pd). It will pry better and with more blade strength/security then any of the other blades in its catagory. it will be a little better at chopping because it will have a lower saber grind then the rest (or similar to the nark, but without the metal removed on the top).

The tank buster is a skinner/cutter with a high saber grind and a tall blade. It's recurved edge extends the belly, making it better then the rest at skinning applications. It's strength will probably comparable to the batac. at 3/16" thick, compared to the .220" version of the batac - the batac will probably be stronger, a bettery prybar, and a better chopper - but the tank buster will be considerably better at cutting tasks.

The mini-eu17 is a full flat ground 1/4" blade with a tapered tip. It is designed more for combat use where cutting geometry is important then the rest of the knives present. at 1/4" it will be comparable for prying with the pdtac, though I think the pdtac will be more tank like and more obtuse, and will have a comparable cutting geometry to the batac, if not a little slimmer for the first 3/4" of the blade due to its full flat grind vs. the batac's convex edge. Compared to the .220 version of the batac - it has a longer edge and better cutting geometry due to its heighth, and a slightly more acute tip due to its long taper.
 
I do find it ironic that a knife with a full flat grind like that is called the tank buster. You'd think it would be really tough and thick and armour piercing.
Any theories?
 
I do find it ironic that a knife with a full flat grind like that is called the tank buster. You'd think it would be really tough and thick and armour piercing.
Any theories?

The name sounded cool, and it looks compact and stout like a lil tank.
 
I'm glad to hear that it's 3/16th --- that makes it more desirable for me.
 
I'm glad to hear that it's 3/16th --- that makes it more desirable for me.

My comments are based solely on cunjuncture and assumption :D

I always thought the public defender was an odd name. I never thought of it as a utility knife, or a fighting knife, it always came off as a heavy abuse prybar to me. As far as "tank buster", I don't know. it looks bigger then the rest of the knives in its size group, giving it a "tank like" appearence.
 
I do find it ironic that a knife with a full flat grind like that is called the tank buster. You'd think it would be really tough and thick and armour piercing.
Any theories?

I read that it was going to be the "Warthog," but since Kabar already has a blade w/ the same name, they went w/ the slang name for the Warthog "Tank Buster" aircraft (the one w/ the gatling guns and stuff).

Anyways, I'm a new and rather broke Piglet, so I have to choose my INFI very carefully. I am in love w/ my CGFBM. I too passed on the BATAC in hopes that the Tank Buster will come out sometime in the next 6 months - year. Something about the look of it really grabs my attention. I'm just hoping that there is a blue G10 grip available when it comes out, so that I can mate it up w/ my FBM. I like to have my Choppers and Cutters in pairs. I'm odd like that. $0.02 from a rookie piglet. (BTW, the Hell Razor is on my short list as well - if the TB doesn't come out before too long, I'll be trying to get my hands on one of them instead!)
 
Why u need an exponation? Just look at it!

It looks perfect EDC size knife for RAMBO!!!! :eek: :eek: There isn't anything not to like about it. Don't know why u need to ask:confused:
 
Thanks for the insight as always, LVC.

I saw somewhere too that thickness of Tank Buster was 3/16".
MSRP $ is same as BA-TAC.
These two knives seem very similar in size.
 
For the "Tank Buster" I hope so....I know there is a school of thin blades, but I am still caught up with thick blades!!!
 
how thick was the knife they tested and cut hemp 1" rope 2770 times and it was shaving sharp,then put it in a vice bent it to 35degrees and it returned to true, I think it was 3/16 stock if i am not mistaken. Does anyone know the exact model BUsse that was??????
 
how thick was the knife they tested and cut hemp 1" rope 2770 times and it was shaving sharp,then put it in a vice bent it to 35degrees and it returned to true, I think it was 3/16 stock if i am not mistaken. Does anyone know the exact model BUsse that was??????


I don't KNOW for sure but for some reason the Basic 9 springs to mind... BUT please don't take my word for it... now where's that thread???? :)
 
Well I think the greatest appeal of a Tank Buster is that it can Bust a Tank, right? What more does one need to know?:D
 
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