Please help provide info about my Katana (Pic Heavy)

AusLoX said:
At the start of the war they were made in factories in Japan. The majority were made in China. I'm not off base at all. And you're not going to get a historic katana out.
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http://ohmura-study.net/910.html
Since Japanese sword stock decreased in number extremely by outbreak of a Manchuria incident in 1931, it schemed for revival of the Japanese sword by the army, the sword community, and a private sector cooperator, and the "NihontōTanren Kai (Japanese Sword Forging and Tempering Society)" was established by Yasukuni Jinja in 1933 (Yasukuni-tō).
The "Tatara" steelworks revives again, a private sword factory is also born in various places in the same year, andthe forging of a sword was begun. In order to forge the Japanese sword which an officer carries, the sword factory ofan army and the navy was prepared. It appealed for the army to the private sector swordsmith, and it provided the
"Army Commission Sword-smith system". The swordsmith was raised, and it became government-and-people one to forge the Japanese sword for officers, and it was promoted. In this way, the new sword made in the sword factory of an army(or navy), Yasukuni-tō, the new work. Japanese sword of traditional forging by the commission-swordsmith of an army and private sector swordsmith , etc. were dedicated to the Guntō-Koshirae. ※1 The officer of an overwhelming majority followed the substance which carries a Japanese sword, and the army enacted the Japanese style Type Tachi Guntō
mounting for officers in 1934, and the navy was enacted in 1937(common name: Army Type-94 and Navy Type-Tachi). Originally a Guntō means "a use and a mounting(Koshirae) form". Japanese swords are the foundations of the blade for Guntōs.

1934 establishment Army Formal Guntō (Type-94)

1937 establishment Navy Formal Guntō (Type-Tachi )

Production of Mantetsu-tō started on the South Manchuria Railway Co., Ltd.. The army arsenal started development of the mass-produced type blade for an officer at that time. This was that with which the non-productivity of Japanese sword manufacture is compensated. The Tōhoku Imperial University Metal Material Research Institute developed a blade called Shinbu-tō substitution of a Japanese sword weak against the intense cold in 1942.
This blade was an excellent practical use Guntō in alignment with the purpose. The Kōbe Minatogawa Jinja Kikusui Tantō Kai started manufacture of the Japanese sword (Kikusui-tō) of traditional
blade making for naval officers in 1941. In the same year, Seki of the capital of a sword succeeded in mechaniz-ation of an ancient rite forging(the ancient rite half forging was called), and manufacture of this sword was started.
The army enacted the formal Guntō Mounting for officers which the Koshirae was simplified and strengthened the circumference of a hilt in 1943. (common-name Type-3).


1943 establishment army formal Gunto (Type-3)

It prepared for the same year and Japan's mainland decisive battle, and mass production of the army Zōhei-tō (for officers) called "the sword of modern manufacture" started in Seki. In addition, among the people, the Sunobe-tō andthe Shōwa-tō, etc. of various names were made in large quantities.
As a result of supplying the blade of the practical use basis which depends on these simple manufacturing processes in
large quantities, as for the Guntō which an officer supplies, a special blade came to get a majority.
These are the Guntōs of the mass production commonly named "Shōwa sword" generically.※2

Guntōs were both sides of a scale and systematic employment, and were big fields which does not look at an example to a sword in history of Japan.

※1 Therefore, the Japanese sword (present age sword) forged at this time is generally called a Gunto to the background and use of revival of a Japanese sword. Many scientific Japanese swords were forged in addition to the handmade Japanese sword.
※2 The definition of the Showa※ sword has not become settled. A mere sword making age is expressed or it names generically except the Japanese sword of a common saying (for example, an Sunobe-tō, Zōhei-tō, Mantetsu-to, etc.).

Please provide some supporting documentation concerning your statement that the majority of Gunto were made in China.

Exporting swords from Japan

Swords for export must be submitted to the Bunka-chô-bijutsu-kôgei-ka (Art and Craft Section of the Cultural Agency). The Tôrokushô is handed in, and an export permit (Kobijutsuhin-yushutsu-kansa-shômei) is issued in return. This export permit is valid for one month; within that time all customs and export procedures have to be completed or otherwise the permit becomes void.

With this permit it is possible to either send the sword via mail/private carrier abroad, or to personally carry it through customs when leaving Japan. The latter is in most cases not possible for those who just visit Japan since issuing usually takes at least two weeks. In this case the dealer/seller has to apply for the export permit.

As an example, easily verified, there is a papered katana in Japan right now, on a famous online auction site shipped worldwide from Japan:

Swordsmith: Seiryuken Moritoshi
Superior swordsmith of Bizen-den. served Suo-no-kuni Iwakuni-han Yoshikawa-family.
*Disciple of Chounsai Tsunatoshi(1798-1863. Disciple of Suishinshi Masahide)
he fostered Tsunatoshi's son as 2nd Moritoshi.
Tsunatoshi had many other superior Disciples(Koyama Munetsugu, Takahashi Naganobu and etc),
but he chosen Moritoshi as his son's trainer. and Tsunatoshi's son became 2nd Moritoshi.

Hacho(Cutting edge length): 67.8cm
Sori: 1.6cm
Motohaba: 2.92cm
Motogasane: 0.63cm
Sakihaba: 19.5cm
Sakigasane: 0.42cm
Signature: Mumei
Roots: Tsunatoshi
Tsukuri: Shinogi-zukuri Iori-mune
Jihada: Mokume
Hamon: Gunome-Midare
Nakago: Ubu
Condition: Good. Polished in recent.
there is slight rusts. but no serious damages.
please understand that this is old antique.
Age: around Genji-era(1864-1865) Edo-period. about 150 years ago.

with a Certificate by Kobayashi Yukinobu of Juho-Token-Kenkyukai.
(the Former Executive director of NBTHK)

*Katana Koshirae*
Full length: 92.6cm
Tsuba: work by Aizu-shoami
Motif: Dragon in sand
Size: 90 x 81 x 4mm
Menuki motif: Sacred lion
Fuchi/Kashira motif: Sacred lions & Peony
Tsuba & Fittings age: Edo era
Saya age: after Showa era
Condition: very good.
with Shirasaya & Tsunagi(wooden blade)

with TsubaCertificate by Nihon-Tosogu-Kenkyu-Kai(NTKK)
*Jury President: Makio Saruta.
(he is Director of NBTHK Osaka branch. and Author of " Tosogu-no-bi".)

Buy it now price is about 6k.....how much more antique do you want it(and don't give me any crap about it being mumei either, it has the papers that are recognized by just about everyone, including the Japanese government)?

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
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I know the process. Post pics when you get yours since it's so easy.
 
AusLoX said:
I know the process. Post pics when you get yours since it's so easy.
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Douche move.

Money talks, BS walks!!!

Let me point out that you have been on BFC since.....this year.

I don't know who you are, or what claim you have to lineage, whereas, mine is open for all to see.

It's enough for those who know what is what....how about yours?

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
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Been catching up on here and this thread towards the end has become down right humorous.

Isn't it a fake tachi?
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Stacy, you are correct, it is mounted as a tachi, though it looks to be signed Katana mei. I think it is so obviously fake that it didn't matter. Lol.


And now on to the funny part:
Umm...the majority of Katanas during WWII were Chinese made because they needed an increased production rate. You guys think the WWII Katanas were all hand made in Japan?
Good luck trying to get a true Katana out of Japan. I know the process. Post pics when you get yours since it's so easy
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Auslox,
Seriously ! Are you that misinformed or worse ?
Have you ever heard of this thing called the internet, in the future you should try using it before you make a fool of yourself. Google might be a good start, type in Japanese swords for sale. Sadly, it is too late for you here.

I can't comment on how cool Steven is, but I can tell you that he is correct. Regardless of what you think, or think you know, you are wrong !! At first I thought perhaps you were trying to say that it was difficult to get National Treasure Blades out of Japan, which it is.

However, showing either your ignorance or lack of language skills you state, "Good luck trying to get a true Katana out of Japan", then "I know the process. Post pics when you get yours since it's so easy."

Having co-owned a sword shop in Fukuoka, I have imported literally hundreds of "True" antique Japanese swords or Nihonto. It can be done quite easily and is done on a regular basis by many dealers and collectors alike.

I don't what or if Steven even collects Nihonto, but in reply to your request of "Post pics when you get yours since it's so easy"

How's this, an antique Japanese sword with the highest paper rating allowed outside Japan. Tokubetsu Juyo, Etchu Norishige: http://yakiba.com/Tanto_Norishige.htm

What say ye now Lamont ?
 
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