Please help with gift for husband

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Monica Diamond

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Hi guys!

You guys really helped me last year when you recommended some belts for my husband from Poppys ? mail order.

My husband is away from Internet access for a while and I've heard him talking and reading up on disk plates. That might not be the terminology but I hope you guys understand. He has marked a few from Beaumont Metal Works. He bought his grinder from this outfit and seems quite pleased. I think that he might want to get 2 of them and somehow mount them attached to his grinder setup from BMW.

Would you prefer 2 flat, 1 flat and 1 bevelled, or 2 bevelled? I'm not sure that I can get this sent to me in time for when he returns home but your help would sure help. I saw saw notes in his metal information notebook and there is a magnetic version, NIELSON? Is that better, easier to deal with?

Just an FYI to all the men out there, I think you should have a notebook with notes, that way your loved ones will know where to go and what to get what you want instead of gift cards to stores that don't have what you want.

Thank you for your help again gentlemen.
 
I remember that thread! A lot of us benefitted from that advice. My $.02, you won't go wrong with either the one from Mr. Frink at Beaumont or from Mr. Nielson (aren't they both named Rob?), but the magnetic changeable plates from mr. N tip the scales for me for sheer convenience. I'd go with one beveled and one flat if it were me, but not having either personally I can't give much support to back that. They both have their place.

Your husband is a lucky man. I may have to try the notebook idea...
 
I remember that thread as well! I use only flat discs and have never used beveled. I hear it depends on the knives one makes, bigger blades work better with the beveled plate and normal sized ones on a flat. So I guess what size blades does he make mostly? Two flat magnetic ones would be nice as you wouldn't have to pull the abrasive off before its worn out, just switch discs.

Can I give you my wifes phone number an you can talk her into buying me stuff for the shop?!


-Xander
 
Monica Diamond said:
Hi guys!

You guys really helped me last year when you recommended some belts for my husband from Poppys ? mail order.

My husband is away from Internet access for a while and I've heard him talking and reading up on disk plates. That might not be the terminology but I hope you guys understand. He has marked a few from Beaumont Metal Works. He bought his grinder from this outfit and seems quite pleased. I think that he might want to get 2 of them and somehow mount them attached to his grinder setup from BMW.

Would you prefer 2 flat, 1 flat and 1 bevelled, or 2 bevelled? I'm not sure that I can get this sent to me in time for when he returns home but your help would sure help. I saw saw notes in his metal information notebook and there is a magnetic version, NIELSON? Is that better, easier to deal with?

Just an FYI to all the men out there, I think you should have a notebook with notes, that way your loved ones will know where to go and what to get what you want instead of gift cards to stores that don't have what you want.

Thank you for your help again gentlemen.
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I remember you from then too.
I'm glad you and your husband found our comments helpful

I would like this system, with several "Modified Flat Disc" plates maybe 4 or 5, no beveled plates
It makes changing paper faster with less waste and time between grit size changes

You can always add more at a later date


http://www.nielsendesigndiscgrinder.com/

http://www.caffreyknives.net/RodsDisc.html



If I were to buy a fixed plate it would be this one, but I'm not sure they are ready yet.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1088181-Steel-grinder-disk-machining
 
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I also agree that the interchangeable discs plates from R. Neilson are very nice. Get him the base hub, one flat disc, and one beveled disc. He can get more plates later as he needs them.
http://www.nielsendesigndiscgrinder.com/Prices.html

Do not buy him two disc plates like the ones from Beaumont....he can only use one.
To explain the reason two regular disc plates would be of no use, he would have to unmounts one and then mount the other every time he was going to change grits. That would be almost like changing your tire every time you drove off road, and then changing back when you came to some paved road. The Neilson unit mounts the magnetic base, and then you just switch the top plates. It is more expensive , but much more versatile.

I also remember you. You are the knifemakers dream wife :)
 
Thanks for the great information. What will these disks allow him to do that the bmw grinder won't? I'm just curious since one hits straight and then other goes in circles.

The magnetic one looks like it would be best since he wanted more than 1 disk. And it's a nice shiny blue! :-)
 
I have the Nielsen system with one modified flat disc and one 1-deg tapered disc. I use both in different applications... but the flat is used most frequently. Like the others have said, it's a great system. :thumbup:

Erin
 
It will allow him to grind dead flat bevels and tapers. The entire blade sits on the disc, as opposed to just 2" of it on the belt grinder. He will be amazed at the change it makes in his knives.
 
Monica Diamond said:
Thanks for the great information. What will these disks allow him to do that the bmw grinder won't? I'm just curious since one hits straight and then other goes in circles.

The magnetic one looks like it would be best since he wanted more than 1 disk. And it's a nice shiny blue! :-)
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You have to glue the sandpaper onto the disc to use it.

As you use it, you have to change sandpaper to finer grits.


The Magnetic disc system allows you to quicly change back and forth between sandpaper already glued onto the disc

Sometimes you have to scrape the sandpaper off and reglue another sheet
- even if that sandpaper was still usable

The magnetic system let's you just change it and reuse it later to easily go back and forth.
 
fast14riot said:
Oh, and 3M feathering adhesive is fantastic for gluing sheets to the discs.
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Nielsen magnetic disc and 3M feathering adhesive in one handy photo. :p
 
Erin Burke said:
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Nielsen magnetic disc and 3M feathering adhesive in one handy photo. :p
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Why in this photo is there glue being applied to the base hub? I thought that there were extra discs that would be attached magnetically to this hub and that the glue would be applied to these plates and then the paper would be applied to the glued up plate. Do you glue the plate to the hub as well?
 
It's being applied to a bare disc plate. The plates are thin, maybe .140" or so, and that one he has appears to be one with the beveled back edge for getting into tight spots.


-Xander
 
Monica Diamond said:
Why in this photo is there glue being applied to the base hub? I thought that there were extra discs that would be attached magnetically to this hub and that the glue would be applied to these plates and then the paper would be applied to the glued up plate. Do you glue the plate to the hub as well?

fast14riot said:
It's being applied to a bare disc plate. The plates are thin, maybe .140" or so, and that one he has appears to be one with the beveled back edge for getting into tight spots.


-Xander
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Yep... Xander nailed it. The shiny disc is the actual removable disc -- though this particular one is the 1-deg tapered disc and not the modified flat with beveled edge that Xander guessed -- and the blue piece (you can see the hub in the center) is the magnetic backer plate. I'm applying the feathering adhesive only on the steel disc... avoiding the hub. When your husband unboxes this system, the first thing he'll comment on is how well built it is. Rod Nielsen put a lot of thought and engineering into it, and it shows. I'm still amazed every time I swap plates, at how well thought-out and executed the system is. :thumbup:
Erin
 
An interesting note on this machine is that even the magnets in the hub are of varyian degrees of strength figured by a specialist. Frank
 
Frank Niro said:
An interesting note on this machine is that even the magnets in the hub are of varyian degrees of strength figured by a specialist. Frank
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Yeah Frank... It's amazing to me how much pull the hub magnets exert on the plates (you don't want to get your finger pinched), BUT there is absolutely no noticeable magnetic attraction between a knife blade and the disc. The disc also does not attract steel dust... except for a very minimal amount directly around the magnet locations on the back side of the hub. Very well engineered.
 
Thanks to everyone for the helping my wife. I think the Nielsen disk should be really nice. I'm not sure if everyone that commented own these but seems like the opinions are quite high for this system.

Maybe there would be interest in a group buy for the Nielsen disc system?

Thanks again
 
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