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Please need help on handle fastener type/name

Discussion in 'Shop Talk - BladeSmith Questions and Answers' started by Ladams19, Aug 5, 2019.

  1. Ladams19

    Ladams19 Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 7, 2015
    I was browsing knife styles this weekend and ran across these. It's an interesting method of handle attachments. I like the hollow style screws that you can then take off the scales yet still be able to put some parachord through as a lanyard. The bad part is I can not find them anywhere. I have called them by many names and still nothing on the searches. Can anyone tell me what these might be called? It's the threaded fasteners that are still hollow like the tubes. I love the idea. I have called them (knife handle fasteners hollow, threaded tube fastener, threaded bolts with through hole along with many other random names trying to get an idea of how much these would cost and what sizes they come in. Also checked all the major knife makers suppliers with no luck. Any help with finding these would be appreciated. I spent several hours searching every supplier and google images with zero hits. I am wondering if this is a custom thing from this maker. Its a
    Pohl Force November One Santos Wood Outdoor Gen2 2065, fixed knife

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  2. 12345678910

    12345678910

    Jul 13, 2009
    sex bolts
     
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  3. Ladams19

    Ladams19 Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 7, 2015
    Thank you for the reply. I looked at sex bolts but could never find any that were hollow like these. I actually have several sizes of sex bolts in my parts box for knife handles. None of course that are hollow. I have been searching more and more and it seems like they use these on most of their knives. Not familiar with the brand so much though. Thanks again, I will keep looking until I find these. I would really like to try and use something like this. At least use one for a lanyard and regular sex bolt with it.
     
  4. AVigil

    AVigil Adam Vigil knifemaker working the grind Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Platinum Member

    Feb 17, 2009
    They probably had them custom made for their knives
     
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  5. Ladams19

    Ladams19 Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 7, 2015
    That might be it, because I am going blind looking at hundreds of pictures and manufactures and seeing nothing that looks like this. Its a great idea in my personal opinion. You get a removable scale as well as the ability to run a lanyard if you like. Just something that caught my eye. Thanks for you alls help, it's appreciated.
     
  6. Jpgied

    Jpgied

    19
    Dec 20, 2017
    Chain ring bolt
     
  7. FredyCro

    FredyCro

    8
    Jan 11, 2019
    You could probably come away with bicycle chainring bolts. Come in steel or alu, anodysed as well.
     
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  8. Ladams19

    Ladams19 Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 7, 2015
    YES, that's it. Chain ring bolts. never heard of them but learning now. After looking it seems it is a variant and I found a knife maker that uses them as well SouthPaw Knives. THANKS A MILLION guys. Much respect with the knowledge here. Beats the bruise on your forehead from banging head on wall lol.
     
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  9. JAGKNIFE

    JAGKNIFE

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    Jan 10, 2012
    You can get chain ring bolts at JENSON USA or on EBAY I have used them a few times on knife builds
     
  10. Ladams19

    Ladams19 Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 7, 2015
    Thanks appreciated. Now I know what they are I have been looking at so many different styles and COLORS. How did I miss these for so long? I guess I just have not been into bikes for a long time so never had a reason to look for them.
     
  11. Hengelo_77

    Hengelo_77 Basic Member Basic Member

    Mar 2, 2006
    Also check out the axles of inline skates
    You might like them as well
     
  12. Ladams19

    Ladams19 Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 7, 2015
    Thanks, checking those out now as well. Looks like that might work. I am going to order some chainring bolts and some of these axle bolts and see what I can with them. Thanks for the help. Usually I accidentally discover stuff like this. In this case I had never seen the bolts and without a name its a challenge to search them. Appreciate the help from the community.
     
  13. Kevin McGovern

    Kevin McGovern KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jul 31, 2015
    if I want a hollow pin. I just use tube. I flare each side and the scales aren't going anywhere. Flaring can be done with 2 ball bearings in a vise (if you have three hands) or make a simple flaring die like i did to go in an arbor press. IMG_20180410_074226850_HDR.jpg
     
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  14. Ladams19

    Ladams19 Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 7, 2015
    Thank you for the idea. I will have to try that. I have never tried to flair tubes. I have used them a couple of times. Nice looking knife by the way as well.
     
  15. J. Keeton

    J. Keeton Basic Member Basic Member

    723
    Nov 15, 2005
    Not to hijack this thread, but where did you get your flaring dies?! Knife looks great! :thumbsup:
     
  16. WValtakis

    WValtakis Hand Engraving, Anodizing and Embellishment Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    May 29, 2004
     
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  17. J. Keeton

    J. Keeton Basic Member Basic Member

    723
    Nov 15, 2005
    Yep, totally missed that... Sorry... I should read slower.
     
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  18. Hengelo_77

    Hengelo_77 Basic Member Basic Member

    Mar 2, 2006
    I've used the heads of large screws to flair tube
     
  19. Kevin McGovern

    Kevin McGovern KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jul 31, 2015
    I cut down 2 pieces of 1/2" round w2 to 3/8" about 1/2" from the end. This fits a 3/8" hole in my arbor press ram and plate with a shoulder so they don't bottom out. I then chucked the reduced end if the rod in a drill and ran it while grinding it on my grinder. I had marked the angle of my counter bore on the work table of my grinder so the dies will press at the angle I have relieved my handle material holes. I then hardened the dies.

    Here's a link to some photos of what I did. https://photos.app.goo.gl/mYU7LSMwAf9SQTCR7
     
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