Please post old historical photo's of traditional cutlery that we all luv so much.

[brownshoe]

That info shows how much things have changed in the workplace. Many people these days don't start work until their early twenties and most don't or can't stay with a firm more than 10 years.

 

[sunnyd]

Here is a photo from Joseph Rodgers & Sons 1911 in honour of all employees with 50 or more years of service. As you can see from the list, some started working for the firm as early a 9 years old, most started in their early teens. The men in this photo were involved in the making of knives from 1861 or earlier. Also note a member of the Platts family (James).

Superlative photo and documentation on this SMILING-KNIFE! Please keep them coming if you find any more..:thumbup:
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brownshoe,

I second that one for sure and couldn't agree more.

 

[Yosemite Sam]

That info shows how much things have changed in the workplace. Many people these days don't start work until their early twenties and most don't or can't stay with a firm more than 10 years.

Heck, these days you're lucky if the company is around in 10 years.

Don't get me started on the state of corporate America. I've been living it for 30 years.

-- Sam

 

[sunburst]

Thanks Gents..

Sunnyd that picture is the Queen Cutlery factory today but actually it is the original Schatt & Morgan from the 1890's. If you look at the first picture I put up in the top left hand corner you will see the similarity.

Sunburst

Hey there Sunnyd I didn't mean that as a correction to ya , I just wanted to share with folks that it started out originally as the Schatt & Morgan factory and now is the Queen factory (actually has been since the 20' or 30's) so that means the Schatt & Morgan knives have been made there for a 105 years, that is pretty cool to me...:thumbup:


Incredible picture SK, I continue to be blown away from these pictures..


Sunburst

 

[sunnyd]

..'Old Bill' as he was known in some circles has become a legend in knifedom now-a-days.. He is IMO the undisputed Father of Custom Knife-making in the 20th Century. That is he was the first,, and set the example in the early 1900's.. I of coarse call him Mr. Scagel..

Let me say here right now that the following documentation has been borrowed from two (2) sources. Number #1, the book, "Scagel The Man and His Knives", by Mr. Harry McEvoy and #2, an article written by his personal physician and great friend, Dr. James Lucy

I guess I should also tell you also IMO, that I believe there also was another man that runs a very close second doing nearly the very same thing (custom knife-maker) pretty much around the same time and his name was Rudolph Ruana although his forged knife product was a different method altogether. IMO, These two fellows are the first and best and have been forever copied ever since.

Anyway Mr. Scagel has a fascinating story.. Please read the following from Dr. James Lucy as you will be very much enlightened for your brief effort:

http://www.stonecenterpiece.com/Scagel.pdf

Some of the talents that Mr. Bill Scagel possessed was knife making but that does not even scratch the surface of what this great man could do..

There were many other talents such as Botany, Carpentry, Hunting & Fishing, Boat Making and here was an example of more metal making..

He had an odd shaped 1 acre piece of property in Fruitport, Michigan and the following was at the gate and entrance of his property..

Possibly a little known fact is that he was by all reports a strict vegetarian and fed his dogs all the Venusian from the deer meat he harvested when he hunted. Here is one of his favorite dogs, a Black Labrador Retriver that he photographed that he used on his letterhead and business mailings..

 

[sunburst]

Alright Sunny those pictures are fantastic, I just so happened to get my most recent Scagel reproduction yesterday...Great information..:thumbup:


Here's for the Case fans out there!!

 

[sunburst]

Sunnyd, thanks for the PDF that will go right to the "Knife Files""

 

[sunburst]

Here's the last ones..

 

[sunnyd]

Sunnyd, thanks for the PDF that will go right to the "Knife Files""

You are so welcome. I too put that PDF in my knife files as well. I would to see your Scagel repro right here if you are cool with it..

.. And Great GOD man,, the Case XX pictures are absolutely wonderful!!. :thumbup: Keep Them Coming!!

 

[sunburst]

You know Sunnyd I would have loved to see how he set up that picture with the dog carrying the bowie in his mouth...That is a great picture..

 

[sunnyd]

You know Sunnyd I would have loved to see how he set up that picture with the dog carrying the bowie in his mouth...That is a great picture..

It's wayyyyy too funny how you and I think so much alike.. Cause you know back then there was no such thing(technology) as photo-chops! So I am thinking he trained the dog to fetch on the handle side.. :thumbup: :thumbup:

 

[sunnyd]

There were literally dozens of Scagel repo's that I bought and sold to try to get to the heart of the real deal. Although never able to afford the real McCoy,, I did acquire a mess of replica's. The absolute best that I ever got was the following.

These following I own I will most likely will not ever sell because of the design genius and attention detail on materials and grind and finish not to mention the sheathes that accompany each knife. The maker is a fine gentleman named Jim Behring at Treeman Knives:

This little Scagel reproduction slip-joint beauty was the first offering from Northwoods knives and IMO, is still the most accurate when you look at Old Bill's personal pocket knife..

 

[sunburst]

Ha,ha,ha Yes I would say we surely do think along the same lines that scagel reproduction slipjoint is the one I just got in the mail yesterday from Jim Behring at Treeman Knives.

Those fixed blade reproductions are absolutely fantastic my friend. I have watched those very closely for some time but have not pulled the trigger on one, just incredible craftsmanship..

Take care,

Sunburst

 

[sunnyd]

.. I know that this fellow did not like having his picture taken because try as I have, I cannot find a photograph anywhere of William Wales Scagel. If there is anyone out there that has one, or knows where and how to obtain one.. Would you kindly let me know.?

 

[thawk]

http://www.knives.pl/www/artykuly/knifemakers_-_inne_kraje/william_scagel.html

Courtesy of Google Images

Fairly tough reading for me!

 

[thawk]

I found these in the same browse as his picture:



Don't know anything about the picture. There's some fairly wicked combinations of stag, leather, and steel in there though.

 

[Jerry Hagman]

I found these in the same browse as his picture:



Don't know anything about the picture. There's some fairly wicked combinations of stag, leather, and steel in there though.

Holy smokes!!!

 

[iSaur]

This image is from a Lee Valley Tools catalog of a few years ago. They were selling a variety of old Thiers-Issard (Sabatier) kitchen knives dating from the 1920's-50's.

Not an old picture, but I like this shot of the Grohmann factory:

iSaur

 

[smiling-knife]

This is a most excellent thread. Thanks to everyone for showing these wonderful old photos.

 

[sargey]

a short way down this webpage you'll find a brief history of the matindale's crocodile works.

http://www.astonbrook-through-astonmanor.co.uk/id151.htm

cheers, and.