heinnie Haynes, to celebrate her birthday released "exclusive" knives, does the drawing remind you of anything ??
----> Sons of Douk
----> Sons of Douk
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There are only so many blade and handle shapes in the world of knives. Sooner or later, everything will be a copy of something. Maybe 2022 is the year of "sooner".
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That is nothing new in the knife business. And as I said, sooner or later everything will be a copy of something.
The Douk-Douk is a very old style of knife (1929). If anyone ever had a patent on the design, I'm sure it's long expired by now. The name "Douk-Douk" appears to be a registered trademark, but it doesn't appear that HH is calling their knives "Douk-Douks".
Aside from that, I see plenty of difference between the two brands, so much so that I wouldn't even call them "copies". I don't think anyone is going to mistake one set of knives for the other.
And consider this, if the HH knives really bother you, by posting the pics of their knives you have given them some free advertising, on a knife forum. So now a lot of people who didn't know they exist (like me), now know they exist, and might decide to buy them. I'm sure HH appreciates the free advertising.
Although I have no interest in either brand of knife, if I did, based on what I see I'd choose the HH ones.
And by the way, these are your first posts and it looks like you're trying to stir things up. That's a bit suspicious.
Aside from that, I see plenty of difference between the two brands, so much so that I wouldn't even call them "copies". I don't think anyone is going to mistake one set of knives for the other.
And consider this, if the HH knives really bother you, by posting the pics of their knives you have given them some free advertising, on a knife forum. So now a lot of people who didn't know they exist (like me), now know they exist, and might decide to buy them. I'm sure HH appreciates the free advertising.
Although I have no interest in either brand of knife, if I did, based on what I see I'd choose the HH ones.
And by the way, these are your first posts and it looks like you're trying to stir things up. That's a bit suspicious.
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You joined the forum to state that a knife looks like another knife?
Just curious, how old are you?
Just curious, how old are you?
LOL
no i have join a forum for reported a stolen design, but if it's not correct to simply, just describe a reality, I would abstain, but heinnie's customers have the right to know, transparency is not bad too
Duplications of simple traditional patterns are generally not subject to the same sort of scrutiny as clones of modern, distinct designs. No rational person would get out the torches and pitchforks to defend the Douk-Douk from cloning. It sounds like HH banned you with good cause.
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That pattern has been around a long time, there are a lot of handles that have the same profile. I think you are getting upset over nothing.
In the modern world, the only ways to keep a knife design entirely your own are:
1) Don’t ever record it, by drawing, digitally or any other means. Imagine it only in your mind.
2) Don’t ever build it.
3) Build just one, don’t ever show it to anybody, and destroy it with your dying breath.
Otherwise, you risk somebody seeing it, copying it, building it, selling it and/or using it.
Y’know the funny thing? Your knife designs aren’t strictly yours. Your mind has created them using the input of every knife you’ve ever seen, handled or used. Other peoples’ knife designs were the raw material yours came from, and it’s been that way since the first caveman sharpened a stick.
“Bwog! Didja see the pointy thing Og made? Could come in handy. Let’s us make some, and trade one to Flog for some berries!”
Later, when governments were invented, they tried to control or prohibit the copying of pointy sticks, and sometimes pointy sticks themselves. Those efforts have been largely unsuccessful, with the result that we now have more kinds of pointy sticks, and in fact more pointy sticks to choose from, than ever before.
The prudent stick pointer will recognize and accept that fact, and devote his/her efforts to the study, appreciation and improvement of pointiness, all satisfying and potentially profitable pursuits. Trying to control the stick pointing activities of others will lead to disappointment.
Parker
1) Don’t ever record it, by drawing, digitally or any other means. Imagine it only in your mind.
2) Don’t ever build it.
3) Build just one, don’t ever show it to anybody, and destroy it with your dying breath.
Otherwise, you risk somebody seeing it, copying it, building it, selling it and/or using it.
Y’know the funny thing? Your knife designs aren’t strictly yours. Your mind has created them using the input of every knife you’ve ever seen, handled or used. Other peoples’ knife designs were the raw material yours came from, and it’s been that way since the first caveman sharpened a stick.
“Bwog! Didja see the pointy thing Og made? Could come in handy. Let’s us make some, and trade one to Flog for some berries!”
Later, when governments were invented, they tried to control or prohibit the copying of pointy sticks, and sometimes pointy sticks themselves. Those efforts have been largely unsuccessful, with the result that we now have more kinds of pointy sticks, and in fact more pointy sticks to choose from, than ever before.
The prudent stick pointer will recognize and accept that fact, and devote his/her efforts to the study, appreciation and improvement of pointiness, all satisfying and potentially profitable pursuits. Trying to control the stick pointing activities of others will lead to disappointment.
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Wouldn't buy either one. Don't care
its a really a old pattern ok, but change only one or line on the drawing is not difficult , or just say "inspired by" , even the Laguiole, Opinel, which are also really old, we don't just do anything, there can be models that look like it (and the cutlers, change lines when the knives they make look like the neighbors. .) with behavior like that, we finished offering our markets to the Chinese ... great! (sorry for my english guys )
