Please Tell Me Why ?

I do find the A2 steel takes some rust; but if you've read any of my comments on rust before you'll know that I seem to have a problem with rust. It even rusts through the tough-cloth if I touch the blade after wiping. That's nothing to do with Bark Rivers though, more to do with my acidic/salty skin and continually damp environment (NW England!). That's really the reason that I don't own more Barkies and prefer to buy infi steel which doesn't rust on me (yet!) Shame as I really do like a lot of Barkies.
Depends on your definition of rust. According to Mike Stewart of Bark River, A2 does not rust. This is a direct quote. Rust being defined as pitting. I have not had any of my A2 barkies pit as a result of wet environment use, discolor yes, pit, no. I do wipe dry after use. Your mileage may vary.
 
Depends on your definition of rust. According to Mike Stewart of Bark River, A2 does not rust. This is a direct quote. Rust being defined as pitting. I have not had any of my A2 barkies pit as a result of wet environment use, discolor yes, pit, no. I do wipe dry after use. Your mileage may vary.

Rust to me = iron oxide (as a head science teacher esp. chemistry). More practically for knives, any metal oxide or other compound on the steel (a.k.a. corrosion).

Pitting or otherwise is relevent in terms of the damage the rust does and the speed at which it progresses into the steel.

I understand where Mike is coming from with this, although I've never seen that comment until now. It's like saying that aluminium doesn't corrode. It does, but only the surface which then protects the underlying aluminium. I still personally say that rust is rust though. The fact that A2 doesn't pit as easily (at all? don't know) is relevent but does not mean that it does not rust.

What I get is pin-point rust-brown speckles on the steel, especially on the exposed tang. I'm not talking about patination but rusting. These spots can be felt with a fingernail and are tough to remove, needing quite stong abrasion (more than a green nylon scourer for instance). Additionally, I seem to need to take the steel down a little to fully remove the spots, meaning that the 'discolouration' goes to some depth in the steel.

If I put a finger on the bare steel, within a few hours I can discern my fingerprint in rust-brown, fine lines.

O1 steel does this with me but much more quickly and more extensively, as would be expected. I get a similar effect on brass as well. I sold a really nice big folder a few months back simply because I could not touch the brass bolsters without them corroding and showing my fingerprints within an hour!

As I have said, I think that I have weird skin oils, so this is my problem, not necessarily one others will encounter. Still, A2 steel can corrode and it's why I don't own more.

Rick.
 
Both Jerry Busse and Mike Stewart are masters in their craft. Do what I do? Buy both! Do you only drink one kind or beer or liquor?? ;)

I am agreein with Paddling_man here, buy both. I usually buy multiple sized knives from diff companies to find what I like. I really like the Barkie Huntsman its a good solid knife. Like PM I side with Busse more especially in some of there different sized knives. Just buy one and see how ya like it. Cant hurt.....or could it;)
 
Depends on your definition of rust. According to Mike Stewart of Bark River, A2 does not rust. This is a direct quote. Rust being defined as pitting. I have not had any of my A2 barkies pit as a result of wet environment use, discolor yes, pit, no. I do wipe dry after use. Your mileage may vary.

Well, I suppose... but I have to admit I've never heard anyone defining rust as pitting before. Certainly the generally accepted definition of rust isn't just pitting...
 
You know I'm going a little off track here but it is my thread so I guess that's allowed eh, but either I'm very lucky when it comes to rust or a lot of people are unlucky !!!
I hike a lot and always carry a knife, usually a Carbon one either S7 or 1095 and I also use my MOD4 most days getting it wet and dirty. When I have finished I usually just give them a wipe down and that's it !!!! I never leave them in a wet sheath however but other than that I take next to no other precautions and I rarely see any signs of rust.
I may on the odd occasion see a little tarnish along the blade but after a little use and a wipe down it is back to normal again ?

Please don't be offended by this but could the problem be that some people just carry their knives but never use them so that the rust is never worn off ?
 
I own 6 Barkies and am in the market for #7.... a mini-Northstar. That won;t be the end, but the point is...they're fine knives! :thumbup: And I MUCH prefer sharpening a convex edge to a standard V-grind.

That said, my next big knife will be a Scrapyard 7. I need a big, husky blade to chop with (chop what? I don;t know. Some stuff, I guess).

So, while BRKT knives have indeed spoiled me, I'm not completely ruined! Nor will you be. Dive in Pitdog!!! ((( :D )))


ON EDIT: Oh, I almost fogot to answer your question ("Please tell me why"): I was showing my newly acquired Northstar to a co-worker, who is a bigger knife-nut than I am! This is a guy who owns alot of knives, ALL of them quality. He was turning the Northstar over in his hands, commenting on BRKT's attention to detail when, in the middle of his sentence, says "......whoa. THis thing is sharp!"
 
Don't you just hate threads like this? Now I went and looked at the Barkies! Stop it..........
 
He was turning the Northstar over in his hands, commenting on BRKT's attention to detail when, in the middle of his sentence, says "......whoa. THis thing is sharp!"
I hope he didn't figure that out by accidentally cutting himself, although that would kinda be funny.

"Hey, this is a nice kni..holy crap, I'm missing a finger!" :D
 
People buy knives for different reasons. Some like the snob appeal of owning a certain brand name. Others spend as darn little as they can and just buy knives and other things that they really need. Some just collect things and have all the money they need to do so. I buy knives that I think give the most knife for the money. I find after 50 some years of using knives that these are very seldom the big dollar knives or the real cheap knives. Its darn hard to beat the Mora, Green river and Old hickory for medium to low cost knives that are meant for real working knives. My greatest joy in buying a knife is finding ones that are worth much more than they cost. There are quite a few out there and will seldom cost all that much.
 
Yeah I must admit I'm very tempted !

I love Carbon steel and A2 is great stuff !!!

Once you get one there is no turning back. They cut so much better than the thick-beveled camp knives that most companies sell.

Allow me to make this easier for you - the current stable at my house:
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OK, now you need to run down the models and handle material for us non-BRKT owners, Lambertiana...
 
OK, now you need to run down the models and handle material for us non-BRKT owners, Lambertiana...


OK..L to R:

Mini-Canadian, buckeye burl, mosaic pins
Highland, black & orange carbon fibermascus, solid pins
North Star, blue glow G10, mosaic pins
North Star, tiger stripe G10, hollow pins
Canadian Special, black & green linen micarta, solid pins
Forager, antique stag bone

I use the North Stars for backpacking, and the Canadian Special sees the most time on my belt when car camping. The black & green linen micarta is quite striking, but does not photograph well.
 
That Forager looks a lot like the Gameskeeper that I have been looking at, how do you rate that against the Highland ?
 
You'll get a stronger grip on the Forager or Gameskeeper. My palm is 4" wide and the Highland just fits, and that without a guard. I really like the Highland, but it is a finesse knife for me: a sharp slicer, but not for heavy outdoor work under difficult conditions.
 
Comply and be ASSIMILATED!!! I have about about 16 or 17 at last count and my 11 year old son has 6 and is getting 2 more for Christmas. you could try a Fox River and maybe piggy back a mini-Canadian or a Little Creek.ike's got the sheath system set up to do that. Just need 2 small bolts to connect the 2 sheaths together. Just take small care and rust shouldn't be a problem.
 
That Forager looks a lot like the Gameskeeper that I have been looking at, how do you rate that against the Highland ?

The Forager is just the stick tang version of the Gameskeeper. The Gameskeeper is a much stouter knife than the Highland. The handle is much larger, which would be a good thing if you have large hands, since the Bark River handles tend to be a little smaller than most fixed blades. I don't have any issues with that, but I don't have huge hands. The Gameskeeper is thicker stock (0.215 vs 0.170 in the Highland). If you are looking at the Gameskeeper, you should also check out the Bravo-1. It is a modified Gameskeeper, with more blade because it doesn't have the large choil.

Personally, I would carry the Highland more than the Forager because I like the smaller package and lighter weight. I bought that Highland for myself, but when it arrived my son decided that he really wanted it, so now it is his.

Don't let the thick stock fool you into thinking that these are sharpened prybars. The full convex grind makes them great cutters.
 
The only BR knife that I really like is the Canadian Camp and Canadian special. Patterned after the Grohmann Canadian Belt knife it one of my favorite designs. Same for the Yukon Belt Knife from KOA. and now the CS version.
 
the convex edges on the Barkies are some of the sharpest factory edges in my collection.... :thumbup:
the only thing you can lose is $$$ :yawn::D
Here's my Nebula... :thumbup:
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Comply and be ASSIMILATED!!! I have about about 16 or 17 at last count and my 11 year old son has 6 and is getting 2 more for Christmas. you could try a Fox River and maybe piggy back a mini-Canadian or a Little Creek.ike's got the sheath system set up to do that. Just need 2 small bolts to connect the 2 sheaths together. Just take small care and rust shouldn't be a problem.

The Little Creek is hard to find. I saw one at an online retailer a couple of weeks ago but I can;t remember which one....

Bark River isn;t making the Little Creek any more, unless they recently changed their mind. It started out as a prototype, I think, and the idea was discarded after several were made. I'd like to get one but, as I said, they're hard to find. It looks like a nice little knife. However, to piggyback to a Fox River, I probably wouldn;t go with anything bigger than a mikro-Canadian.
 
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