Pocket bling

brownshoe said:
Parents can be well meaning, but if they charge rent, they have no say where your money goes. They really can't say even if you don't pay rent. I learned years ago to let kids do what they want with their own money, just don't give them much or make them earn it. Spending their limited funds teaches responsibility in the long run. If you take money from them then they can complain.

Don't try to make your parents understand, just don't show them your new toy. Don't display your growing collection in your room. What parents don't know can't hurt them. :)

If asked, lie and say you got it used on Bladeforums. If pushed for price, tell them 50% lower than actual. Those kinds of lies are harmless and better than arguing over what's not really their concern. Just keep it simple or they'll catch you in a lie.
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Man am I glad you are not raising my kids. ;)

Lying is not something I’m terribly fond of.

Parents are usually concerned about how you spend your money because they want you to succeed in life.

Having a hobby like this is harmless if you can afford it and still pull your weight.
 
MolokaiRider said:
Man am I glad you are not raising my kids. ;)

Lying is not something I’m terribly fond of.

Parents are usually concerned about how you spend your money because they want you to succeed in life.

Having a hobby like this is harmless if you can afford it and still pull your weight.
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In general I agree and don't lie. Sometimes lying is just self preservation "No Dad I didn't have sex with that boy" ;)
 
brownshoe said:
Parents can be well meaning, but if they charge rent, they have no say where your money goes. They really can't say even if you don't pay rent. I learned years ago to let kids do what they want with their own money, just don't give them much or make them earn it. Spending their limited funds teaches responsibility in the long run. If you take money from them then they can complain.

Don't try to make your parents understand, just don't show them your new toy. Don't display your growing collection in your room. What parents don't know can't hurt them. :)

If asked, lie and say you got it used on Bladeforums. If pushed for price, tell them 50% lower than actual. Those kinds of lies are harmless and better than arguing over what's not really their concern. Just keep it simple or they'll catch you in a lie.
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Ah yes, the "lie to your parents, it's harmless" routine. Sound advice, there. :rolleyes:
 
Nothing is a more surefire plan for success than betraying the trust of the people who 100% WANT to be in your corner until they take a dirt nap:rolleyes:

Be open, be honest, and have some thick skin if they dont agree with you. It's part of being an adult, and it will serve you well trying to master the skill of honest persuasion when it comes to the people who deep down want you to be better off than they are.

I'm a dad, as I have said. Let me put it this way: I will help my daughter hide a body if it comes to it. Scratch that: I will help her CREATE a body, THEN hide it, THEN stand in front of a lynch mob before they get to her...unless I can't trust her. If I can't trust her, then who can trust her? If she lies to the person who would throw literally everything away for her, who will she be true to?

If you feel the need to be untruthful to your own parents over something as silly as dropping a Benjamin on some scales, then you are either setting yourself for failure or have some real issues beyond a knife hobby.

Seriously, as a dad, my advice is to just be a man...no, be a good person, and be open. There isn't a thing I wouldn't support my daughter on. She may need to persuade me a bit, but within reason I will always be on her side...if I can trust her.
 
When I was a teenager I was obsessed with watches. I remember spending $400 on one with money I earned at my gas station job. Which at the time was close to a whole months pay. My Father got really mad saying "Your wasting your money!!! and take it back" Which I responded "You're right my friend just spent $300 last weekend buying shots for everyone at the bar, and he has way more friends/ladies then I do" My Dad knew I was joking, but he had this puzzled look. He then asked "What kind of watch is that anyway?" And then he turned to me and said "Well...I guess you do need a good watch, there is worse things you can spend your money on" He never bothered me again after that.

Don't know if something like that would work for you OP.
 
They charge rent, so they dont really get a say in what hobbies you have. Do no harm, and youre fine.

Im younger than the average age here, 24, and i still know plenty of people around my age that let their parents control their lives and money, and i hate that type of stuff. Live your own life and let your kids live theirs.
 
l1ranger said:
possibly relatable story - she got a tattoo in the last year. she got her Mom's okay to do it, but I wasn't too thrilled. it was her money, and I have no problem with the (or any) tattoo - but the fact that we are paying her cell phone, insurance, provide the car, help with tuition, and give her room and board during the summer, I thought it was a poor decision to spend that money on a tattoo.
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This is a great sentiment. If your overall quality of life, well being and the well being of your family (in case you are provider, for instance) doesn't suffer - and especially if you have extra money to spend - then it is really your and your business only to buy expensive knives.

I have to be honest that I sometimes regret spending money so much on knives, but then again it's one of the passions of my life and I guess it could have been spent on hobby that has hidden fees, rental of space, subscriptions etc..
 
Ya...definitely don’t lie about it to your parents. That is terrible advice. I was honest with my parents when I was young and now with my wife...and I believe I own a knife or two. ;)
Trust is worth far far more than any knife.
 
DrRollinstein said:
They charge rent, so they dont really get a say in what hobbies you have. Do no harm, and youre fine.

Im younger than the average age here, 24, and i still know plenty of people around my age that let their parents control their lives and money, and i hate that type of stuff. Live your own life and let your kids live theirs.
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Two things, are they charging the market rate for rent so that the OP could just up and leave and live somewhere else without a major change in finances or is it what a lot of parents do and charge a minimal "rent" to help teach their child about budgeting while allowing said child to build up some savings? If it's the former and he can go live on his own without much change in expenditures, then fine, tell his parents it's his money and he's spending it how he wants. If it's the latter, then he should be appreciative of the deal he has and honor what his parents are trying to teach him until yes out on his own.

Second, the reason many parents try to "control" their children's finances is not a power trip but more their way I was trying to help their kids build up some savings and not make the same mistakes that they did when they were younger.

But let's be honest, it's some scales that are not needed whatsoever for the knife to function. If I was the OP, I'd just leave it alone, save the money and choose a more important issue to fight for.
 
Steely_Gunz said:
Nothing is a more surefire plan for success than betraying the trust of the people who 100% WANT to be in your corner until they take a dirt nap:rolleyes:

Be open, be honest, and have some thick skin if they dont agree with you. It's part of being an adult, and it will serve you well trying to master the skill of honest persuasion when it comes to the people who deep down want you to be better off than they are.

I'm a dad, as I have said. Let me put it this way: I will help my daughter hide a body if it comes to it. Scratch that: I will help her CREATE a body, THEN hide it, THEN stand in front of a lynch mob before they get to her...unless I can't trust her. If I can't trust her, then who can trust her? If she lies to the person who would throw literally everything away for her, who will she be true to?

If you feel the need to be untruthful to your own parents over something as silly as dropping a Benjamin on some scales, then you are either setting yourself for failure or have some real issues beyond a knife hobby.

Seriously, as a dad, my advice is to just be a man...no, be a good person, and be open. There isn't a thing I wouldn't support my daughter on. She may need to persuade me a bit, but within reason I will always be on her side...if I can trust her.
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Well put my friend. I have an 8 year old daughter and a 6 year old son and I stress the lesson about not lying every chance I get. Whatever happened in the first place will not get me nearly as frustrated as I would be if they didn't tell the truth about it. With kids as young as mine, the situation is never too serious, but I need them to understand the importance of telling the truth. As parents, we need to understand that we're not just raising kids, but we're raising future adults.

To the OP, I'd say make sure your priorities are straight. Even if you pay rent, which is a very good thing by the way...maybe kick in a little extra for groceries and stuff like that every once in a while. And if you want something like a bugout, talk to them about it. If they know where your head is at and know you handle your responsibilities, maybe they'll even help you out...
 
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To the OP:

I think others have said that if you are living a subsidized life style, then it is best to delay purchase of what could be termed luxuries until you are truly on your own. (Let's not quibble about the definition of "luxuries".) In addition, when living under your parents' roof, the rent agreement does not mean you are not their child. The situation is different than if you had the same agreement with a landlord in a boarding house. Even if they are not subsidizing you, honor your father and your mother, it's not a suggestion. So, that is a consideration.

If you are on the cusp of becoming independent, just wait a little longer. When you start that career, and paying taxes, health and auto and renters insurance, and all of life's other goodies, then decide what it is you really desire.
 
I'm like 5 years older than you.
I'm saving my own money so I can pay college to myself, and I have to admit, I myself have to think of any purchase as worthy or justified before I commit to it.

That being said, I only own 1 knife which I paid like 60€ (SK-5 Recon Tanto), and I use that knife a lot.
Despite frequent and sometimes heawy use - my family still kinda sees it as a luxury, and an expensive item. But, with time they did start to comment that it's useful that I have it around. And they finally started to see that knife more like a tool and less like a weapon.

Now I'm planning to buy another knife for EDC, Drop Forged Hunter, which is even cheaper than Recon Tanto.
I would just keep carrying my Recon Tanto but it would not be very appropriate on my new job, so there is the reason for me to buy a new knife.

You have right to buy and own whatever you want, as long as you pay it with your own money, but you can't expect everyone to have the same opinion as you.
Having your own mind, making your own decisions and accepting that not everyone will agre with you is a part of being a man.

If you believe it's worth it - go for it.
If not - then don't.
 
My first reaction was that we don't know enough about you to give advice.

My second is that - relatively speaking - _very_ few people understand spending 100+ US on pocket knives, and your parents are likely no exception, and you sure won't be able convert them, so don't even try.

I suggest to give the scales to yourself as a gift/reward, next time you have a good exam, interview, review, bonus, etc. That, at least your mom will understand, out of love, not because she'll understand the knife's value.

Roland.
 
Yeah, your parents will always want you the best, and will often think that they know it better than yourself.

They just want you good, they think that there are smarter ways to spend money than spending it on a pocket knife. Or they want you to save it. And they don't see a pocket knife as something useful or worth that much.

The hell, even me, a guy on this forum would not buy this, and I wouldn't be happy either if I saw my sibling making such financial decision.

But I would still understand if it makes you happy for some reason, and you should reward yourself with something you enjoy.

There are worse ways to spend money also, like alcohol, cigarettes, drugs... or even video games in my humble opinion. So I would understand you.
 
unwisefool said:
Two things, are they charging the market rate for rent so that the OP could just up and leave and live somewhere else without a major change in finances or is it what a lot of parents do and charge a minimal "rent" to help teach their child about budgeting while allowing said child to build up some savings? If it's the former and he can go live on his own without much change in expenditures, then fine, tell his parents it's his money and he's spending it how he wants. If it's the latter, then he should be appreciative of the deal he has and honor what his parents are trying to teach him until yes out on his own.

Second, the reason many parents try to "control" their children's finances is not a power trip but more their way I was trying to help their kids build up some savings and not make the same mistakes that they did when they were younger.

But let's be honest, it's some scales that are not needed whatsoever for the knife to function. If I was the OP, I'd just leave it alone, save the money and choose a more important issue to fight for.
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Helping kids budget is definitely not what I'm referencing here. I'm referring to parents that either overcharge their own children, or some other ridiculous stuff.
I know one kid who isnt allowed to have his own bank account, or one of the visa cards you can have provided by our employer. Dude just has to cash out his checks every other week and carry it around with him.

I doubt budgeting is in most of these parents vocabulary.
 
Tell them, this is what you want and you are getting it and they can skip on Christmas presents.
 
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