Pocket Fixed Blades......Real Survival Knives ?

DOC-CANADA said:
Damn straight! Almost bought one of these babies the other day.

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I thought it would be a real fun piece to use with some upcoming videos. :D

Doc
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I had one of those when I was a kid :)
 
sutured said:
There is no such thing as a survival knife. There are just knives.
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It's still useful to have a name to describe a certain class or style of similar objects. Like "hunting knives," "pocket knives," "tactical knives"... ;)

If "surviving" means camping and hiking outdoors, more backpackers carry a Swiss Army Knife than any other object. And they "survive" just fine. :)
 
Just about evey blade I own over 4" ends up in my pack and I always leave my pack at the truck when I should not. That being said my crkt drifter will have to save my bacon. That blade is used more than any other since it is always in my pocket. I did pick up a tiger napp from BHK as I have started to put it in my back pocket when we go off chasing a critter through the brush. You would be surprised how easy it is to get turned around at night while tracking down a wounded deer or hog. Luckily we can always walk to a fence and work our way to the road on our place. However, some of the ranches I've hunted you could easily walk 10+ miles in any direction before finding a walkable landmark, or end up in Mexico which is worse. The tiger is perfectly capable of anything I could ever need. I still have my larger blades for their intended purpose, try cleaning a Nilgai with a Leatherman. IT BLOWS.
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Bob W said:
It's still useful to have a name to describe a certain class or style of similar objects. Like "hunting knives," "pocket knives," "tactical knives"... ;)

If "surviving" means camping and hiking outdoors, more backpackers carry a Swiss Army Knife than any other object. And they "survive" just fine. :)
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LOL! So "survival" as applied to knife means . . . . nothing. Swiss Classic to 2.5 lbs of khukuri. ^___^

Saw some "tactical" belt pouches for sale today.

As for what is most important, as suggested that depends. I would just as soon have a knife to help with fire and shelter, but the source of ignition and a poncho might be more life-saving to be sure.
 
Thomas Linton said:
LOL! So "survival" as applied to knife means . . . . nothing. Swiss Classic to 2.5 lbs of khukuri. ^___^

Saw some "tactical" belt pouches for sale today.

As for what is most important, as suggested that depends. I would just as soon have a knife to help with fire and shelter, but the source of ignition and a poncho might be more life-saving to be sure.
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I'll repeat something I've said before:

Survival doesn't mean buying a bunch of crap and carrying it everywhere you go (that's called "camping"), true survival is learning how to make do without.

With a car trunk-load of pre-chosen gear I could "survival," no question about it. And I could do it indefinitely, and be perfectly comfortable.
But what what if you have no knife? No shelter? No navigation tools? No food? No water purification?
That, is survival.
 
Bob W said:
I'll repeat something I've said before:

Survival doesn't mean buying a bunch of crap and carrying it everywhere you go (that's called "camping"), true survival is learning how to make do without.

With a car trunk-load of pre-chosen gear I could "survival," no question about it. And I could do it indefinitely, and be perfectly comfortable.
But what what if you have no knife? No shelter? No navigation tools? No food? No water purification?
That, is survival.
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If we are going into semantics, I'd rather call it "Piss poor planing" ;)
 
Hawkings said:
If we are going into semantics, I'd rather call it "Piss poor planing" ;)
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Most sane people do not plan to get into a situation where their survival is at stake in the first place. Not even the various celebrities who make a living from playing survival games.
 
People should train themselves to have a "survival mindset" vice spending money on "survival knives".

-Stan
 
folks got along fine for many thousands of years with stone chips and other bits of rock. They killed and processed animals, they built shelter, they survived.
It just ain't the knife, it's your skill level.
That said, I like big, sturdy knives for my 'survival'. :D
 
Thomas Linton said:
That would be undeniable. You have to make do with what you have. The better knife at home won't do a thing for you. So skills with what you do carry trump superior tools at home.
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This is my point when I use the best knife is the one you have with you. Without the knowledge to use them a semi load of "survival" gear is useless
There is a big difference in things turning bad in an urban enviroment and the woods too My Dad taught me knowledge, knife and a way to start a fire would get you through , His thoughts were based on rural areas hunkering down over night for light to walk out . His idea of a do all knife was a 3" boker 3 bladed stockman . To him and most of his peers a big knife was a sign of a greenhorn or city slicker If you needed to split wood you carried a hatchet or axe
For me if things turn bad there is a 99% chance it is a weather incident
the knives
I carry are:
Vic farmer All around utility knife I have tried hundreds of knives and always come back to a swiss army knife farmer, tinker or adventurer works for me as the basic carry knife

Cold steel pocket bushman this is my beater knife at work cut insulation etc would not hesitate to drive it through a piece of copper to release sewage water into a mechanical room or similar to keep it from over flowing in a patient room of some one who couldn't be moved (I work maintenance in a hospital)

Fixed blades
at home or out and about in the woods or fishing I carry a fixed blade

Condor Rodan great knife at a decent price ranger band a coulghan fire steel to it If it can't do it I need to carry an axe

Buck 103 Coolest looking knife ever made I.M.H.O. buck quility minus the flimsy tip on a lot of buck knives

Or this Modded old hickory since I did this knife it has pushed the above two to table duty
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Love the modifications on the Old Hickory! Those knives were (and are) great tools for the outdoors. I still have a long butcher knife that has been used as a multi-purpose short machete for more years than I can remember...I think I paid $15 for it way back when. It is a well used Ontario sporting a twelve inch blade with a semi-flexible high carbon steel butcher style shape that was rumored to be some variant of 1095. I saw another such knife at a swap meet in Ohio last year that was made by Colonial.

To be sure: I won't have it in my pocket when my 'survival' situation arises. While I favor my Basic 9 and other large knives for camp use, I'll probably be reaching around for my F1 when the situation turns pear shaped.
 
I have carried one of these two quite often. I originally had five. One fell out of a tree, and I never found it. Two more have yet to be carried or used.




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hollowdweller said:
Pocket Folding blades?
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The title is "Pocket Fixed Blades - Real Survival Knives"!

Not only are those not fixed, but from what I have seen that Nilakka is the furthest thing from a survival blade! More like a fruit knife at best. Hell you would probably chip the blade on an apple seed........
 
mlehto said:
The title is "Pocket Fixed Blades - Real Survival Knives"!

Not only are those not fixed, but from what I have seen that Nilakka is the furthest thing from a survival blade! More like a fruit knife at best. Hell you would probably chip the blade on an apple seed........
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My point being that if a blade folds that you can get a lot more blade in your pocket!

I don't entirely disagree about the Nilakka though:
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Just to stir the pot a bit, but while I have lots of small pocket fixed blades I sort of wonder if I was going to having something in my pocket for "survival" if it wouldn't be my Leatherman Wave??? 2 blades, file, saw, sisscors(sp?)

Far fixed blade under 3" some of my favorites I own:

Adventure Swown 3 1/8"
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Aito Puukko 3"????
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Brian Andrews 3.25
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Mark Wohlwend 3 1/8
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sutured said:
Don't take any of this personally, Pit Dog, 'cause it isn't aimed at you or anyone else...

I like the smaller blades, but I'm coming to really hate the term "survival knife". I just don't understand it. A knife is a knife. Either it's handy for what you're trying to do or it's not. I can think of a few situations in my life where I had a very finite opportunity to keep a bad situation from turning much worse, and none of them hinged on what knife I had with me, though a couple of them hinged on having a way to cut things.

I think the whole idea of a "survival knife" is hype and rubbish. I think about what my grandfather went through in his life with nothing more than a small pocket knife at best, then I think about the current fixation with having a proper "survival knife", and I see a tremendous chasm in the current logic and reality. It's all just the Rambo knife all over again...the incorrect idea that the tool makes the man.

I can see the fun in it, but I just can't take it seriously, and I guess I don't see any purpose in it. Survival isn't a function of the knife and it never will be.

There is no such thing as a survival knife. There are just knives.

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I see your ponts, but I have a small knife along with some tinder and a firesteel in my backpack.
I carry that backpack everywhere, and since I also always have 1 liter of water in it along with a couple of large garbage bags (regardless of whatever else is in it) I could easily term it to be a survival knife. With those things I could survive just fine in many conditions.

Or how about a "just in case" knife...would that terminology be better as it doesn't have all the strange baggage and misconceptions connected with it?:)
 
I like "survival knife,"
it's almost as good as "steak knife" or "butter knife,"
(except it doesn't have any steak, or butter...).
 
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