Poll: Knives available only with serrated edges

SOG makes next to nothing plain edged. Id have so many more SOG knives if i could get them in plain edges. many models arent even produced in plain edge. I dont see how its not cost effective.... heck i know a lot of people that would buy them plain edged. I wish SOG would ignore whats popular and stick to offering knives to a wider audience.
 
Ginzu, anyone?
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It looks like the perfect knife to have on you if you happened to get attacked by a crazed bagel. Cut/Slice/Creme/Jelly, and it's over.
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I have one fully serrated blade, a Spyderco Delica. I carry it in my back pocket, strong side, so I have it for rope cutting, cardboard boxes, or anything for which a small saw might be appropriate. I don't plan to buy any more fully serrated blades, and I will never, ever buy a partially serrated knife that I plan to use. I can sharpen a plain edged blade very well and easily, and I can choose whether I want a smoothly polished or microserrated edge. I don't have a great need for full sized serrations. I can get similar performance from a plain edge and a plain edge is ten times more versatile. Plus I don't mind sharpening my knives, in fact I enjoy it. Now maybe I'm an oddity in this respect, but I don't think that I'm so odd that there aren't others who feel the same way about serrated blades. I really don't like it when a nice knife like the SOG Vision is only offered with a partially serrated, tanto blade. To me those features are aesthetic and they degrade the performance of a knife. Those are the features that appeal more to wannabe Rambos than serious knife users in my opinion, which isn't neccesarily correct (read: I'm not trying to flame anyone). So to answer the question, no, I absolutely would not buy this or any other knife unless it was available in a plain edge. Serrations are not for me.

Correction: I just recieved an e-mail from Ron@SOG and he informed me that the Visions are available in plain edge, although it is a limited run. I apologize for the misinformation, I didn't know about the limited run.

[This message has been edited by Roadrunner (edited 05-19-2001).]
 
AllenC You are correct. Spyderco will sharpen their serrated edges. I posted in Spyderco's own forum and got a definitive answer from Joyce.

I'm not aware of any other manufacturers that will do this, but I thought the record should be set straight on this.

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Dick
 
I keep a fully serrated Delica around. Awesome cutting dynamics. Goes through vinyl and leather like butter, and stays sharp longer because the edge is protected. And the cut is clean, for example on vinyl it is slicing not ripping. Scary to think of what it would do to flesh and tendons. Sharpening is the problem, but Spyderco will resharpen theirs.
 
Whats the deal with all the never ever ever in a million years responses ?
Serrations have a lot more merit than just for LEO,EMT, and self defense. I use serrated blades all the time. They do everything but slice and they do it fast. You can trim tree limbs, cut rope, plastic pipe etc. with a serrated blade with very litle difficulty. Push cutting a polished plain edge through a piece of schedule 40 PVC pipe is not going to happen.nad those "micro serrations" will do a pretty pathetic job of sawing through it too. There's some jobs where serrations are the only way its going to get done, short of going and looking for hacksaw
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I use serrated blades frequently. There not really that hard to sharpen either with a little time and the right tools. I use a $10 diamond hone, and a hard arkansas gouge slip. I touch the serrations up on my daily carry about once a month and it doens't take that much work.
As for that particualr knife. It doesn't really fit what I need in a carry knife. But its not the serrations.

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I may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer... but I've got the sharpest knife in the room.
 
i would buy about one knife with a fully serated blade, because there are times when i would want to use it over a plain edge. but in terms of the majority of knives i buy, i want a plain edge, mostly because it's more versatile. but in general i would say no, i wouldn't buy it, unless i really liked the design. On the other hand, i know that the general public probably has a very different opinion on this than knife knuts, so when you are talking about a knife in that price range i can see ron's point.

my 2 cents

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Pete Jenkins
Lefties unite!
 
Just joined, and thought I'd add my 2¢ worth (being Canadian, you'd probably get change on a penny).
I like a partially serrated blade. I am a scout leader, and have often needed to cut rope, open boxes, as well as slice fabric wrapped sausages, etc. The serrations make life a lot easier. I wouldn't want a fully serrated blade though.
 
For a strictly defensive/offensive knife, full serrations (like on my Cold Steel Vaquero Grande) are pretty hard to beat, as they tend to RIP the flesh, muscles & tendons apart, causing a more rapid blood-loss than a plain-edge blade would.
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Dann Fassnacht
Aberdeen, WA
glockman99@hotmail.com
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My G-10 Harpy is fully serrated and I wouldn't want it any other way. On most of my knives I prefer plain edge and I don't really like combo edges, but I can see the usefullness of a fully serrated edge. When I cut cardboard with my Harpy the cardboard fits inside one of the serrations and I just push cut through it. The serrations help keep the material in one place. For most of my knives I prefer plain edge but I think it's a good idea to have a fully serrated blade around. I can see the usefullness of the fully serrated SOG blade pictured, but I can't see any good reason not to offer it in plain edge also.

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Jason aka medusaoblongata
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I prefer plain. I do like to own at least one or two serrated knives for when I need one though. I really like the design of the SOG. I will probably get one.
RON,
Seems like a lot of folks would buy one in plain. Some manufacturers here have done small batches of special "forum knives" ans took preorders and sold them to BF members. How about a Sog forums neck knife in plain edge? What would be the minimum amount needed to be sold to make it worthwhile?

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Brian
The first knife was probably used to cut stuff.
 
Hi Brian,

I'll pitch the idea for you. We'll see what happens.

FYI, we did pretty much the same thing with our Vision series. We made 12 of each and have pitched them here to forumites. In about nine months, only three have been sold (one to a SOG employee). I know they are more costly, but people asked for them and aren't buying them. It puts us in a difficult position.

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Ron Andersen
Consumer Services Manager
SOG Specialty Knives, Inc.

Website: www.sogknives.com
Email: ron@sogknives.com

[This message has been edited by Ron@SOG (edited 05-20-2001).]
 
Ron,
That is one thing about getting input from here. Sometimes people say things and don't follow through. Sometimes people just want to complain. I like the design and will buy one of the serrated versions. I will take a look at the other knives you listed also. I am surprised the general public chooses serrated over plain.The visions may not sell because of the full retail price.

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Brian
The first knife was probably used to cut stuff.

[This message has been edited by bteel (edited 05-20-2001).]
 
Ron, while it is true you've offered the Visions in plain edge, I've got to say you didn't advertise them really well if that's the only post you have about them. The first I heard of them was from your e-mail, and I fully intend to buy one when funds permit. I think you may have seen a greater response had you posted them for sale on the Knives for Sale, Manufacturer forum. I don't know about everyone, but it seems that the individual manufacturer forums are only frequented by a couple of people who really like the company's products and people who will go there once or twice with a specific question. Of course none of this applies if you did post in the Knives for Sale forum and I just didn't see it.
 
Hi Roadrunner,

Thanks for your comments. My original posting was on October 22, 2000 in the SOG forum. Since SOG does not advertise (with a paid banner) on BladeForums (yet), our ability to sell more openly (such as in the "Knives For Sale: Dealers" section) is restricted. Since it was in the SOG Forum that requests for straight bladed Visions were made, I made the posting there. I hope you can understand our position. We don't want to wear out the generous welcome afforded us here.
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Ron Andersen
Consumer Services Manager
SOG Specialty Knives, Inc.

Website: www.sogknives.com
Email: ron@sogknives.com
 
I wouldn't consider cutting PVC pipe with a knife, nor would I cut tree limbs. I would, however, open envelopes, slice apples and pears, and peel potatoes. Serrated edges are terrible at these tasks, as I've found from personal experience. Also, I don't particularly care if a manufacturer will sharpen their serrated edges or not, as I will not own a knife that I have to ship back to a manufacturer to have resharpened.


JK
 
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