Poor CS from Recon1

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**Edit to add that the point of my post is just to tell my experience, not going to argue or debate, if you feel that this was good customer service then by all means support this company and if you're wondering why I posted this then you're clearly not my target audience**

Hey guys, just a lurker here, mainly active on Reddit, wanted to post my experience with Recon1 though, copy and pasted from Reddit.

Can't post pictures of the emails due to confidentiality wording in Recon1's emails.

I recently bought a neon in S90v for $650, noticed after I got it that the slightest touch to the lock bar would cause it to move to full lockup, past the stainless steel insert to the point where it would make contact with the titanium in the lock bar on the other side of the stainless steel insert and have worse lock stick. I dropped Recon1 a message on their site and received the pictured reply to return for a full refund. I do not dispute the fact that I sent it back in a padded envelope and therefore the box was damaged, that's completely my fault. Here's my problems...
1. When I explained the issue, I was ONLY told to return it for a FULL refund. However when I did that, I was then told (as pictured) that pushing on the lock bar constitutes abuse (so guys, be sure to not apply any pressure to the lock bar when you're gripping the knife) and that if I want that refund I have to accept a 15% restocking fee because the box has to be reordered OR get blacklisted from the site.
2. Recon1 attempted to charge me almost $100 for the absolute shittiest box I've ever seen, when it was damaged when it arrived in the first place. If I had known that they value the box at $100, I would have return it before I even opened it, because the box was damaged when I received it.
3. Sako was a bit of a dick.

After talking with some people, the lockbar issue is fairly common on Shiro's and may be, as Sako says, preference and not a defect. If that is the case though, I should have been told that upon my initial description of the problem which unfortunately I don't have a copy of since it was through the messaging system on their site. This is some of the worst customer service I've seen but I gotta say, props for at least giving me the option to get blacklisted and get that 15%/$100 back, I assume they could have just made me eat the 15% or keep the knife.

Do with this info what you may, if any of you decide to send your money elsewhere, let me know so I can take some satisfaction from that ;)
 
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Hi and welcome to the forums! Sorry to hear about your experience, both with the Shirogorov and with the dealer. Just for future reference, the best place for this kind of thing is a subforum called The Good, The Bad & The Ugly.
 
Hi and welcome to the forums! Sorry to hear about your experience, both with the Shirogorov and with the dealer. Just for future reference, the best place for this kind of thing is a subforum called The Good, The Bad & The Ugly.

Oops, my bad! Hopefully there won't be a next time but if I ever post another feedback I'll do it there.
 
Read their second response again you're missing a point or 2.

They offered you a full refund
The knife was returned different than shipped - the box was damaged.
They then offered you a full refund and blacklisting since you might be a difficult customer or a full refund minus the normal 15% restocking fee.They initially waved that fee but you shipped it back in a padded envelope.

Seems like good customer service to me. Take the full refund and move on.

P.S. The snide remark at the end doesn't reflect well on you. Looking at their responses- nothing personal it's business.
 
And how is this related to Bladeforums? Recon1 and Sako? They are not even members here. You shipped the knife back but it wasn't in the same condition as it was when you received it. I'm surprised they even offered you a refund at all. 2 posts and you are giving feedback on members that aren't even here? Excuse my ignorance, but I don't know the purpose of this thread?

Welcome to BF by the way...
 
Hey guys, just a lurker here, mainly active on Reddit, wanted to post my experience with Recon1 though, copy and pasted from Reddit.

I do not dispute the fact that I sent it back in a padded envelope and therefore the box was damaged, that's completely my fault.

2. Recon1 attempted to charge me almost $100 for the absolute shittiest box I've ever seen, when it was damaged when it arrived in the first place. If I had known that they value the box at $100, I would have return it before I even opened it, because the box was damaged when I received it.

^ Please do the member's here on BladeForums a favor; stay over on Reddit, and don't come back. You've already proven yourself to be once colossal stupid f-ing idiot! Who on Earth would mail a Shirogorov (or any knife for that matter) back in a padded envelope, & then complain about the consequences to their supreme stupidity??? You, evidently

If Recon1, did in fact blacklist you, they made the right call! I sure in the hell wouldn't deal with you! :thumbsdown::thumbsdown:


Read their second response again you're missing a point or 2.

They offered you a full refund
The knife was returned different than shipped - the box was damaged.
They then offered you a full refund and blacklisting since you might be a difficult customer or a full refund minus the normal 15% restocking fee. They initially waved that fee but you shipped it back in a padded envelope.

Seems like good customer service to me. Take the full refund and move on.

P.S. The snide remark at the end doesn't reflect well on you. Looking at their responses- nothing personal it's business.

^ :thumbsup:

And how is this related to Bladeforums? Recon1 and Sako? They are not even members here. You shipped the knife back but it wasn't in the same condition as it was when you received it. I'm surprised they even offered you a refund at all. 2 posts and you are giving feedback on members that aren't even here? Excuse my ignorance, but I don't know the purpose of this thread?

Welcome to BF by the way...

^ Bravo! :thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
Oops, my bad! Hopefully there won't be a next time but if I ever post another feedback I'll do it there.

^ Please don't!!!

And FWIW: I'm quite confident, that there will be a next time (hopefully over on Reddit)! :rolleyes:

I hope that the Mod's will change the disparaging thread title, that this idiot Reddit user OP never should've posted here.
 
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KELAMA KELAMA :

What kind of "hospitality" is this from a long time member on here toward a fairly new comer and a lurker?! A bit too self righteous of you, my neighbor!

Just in case you missed it, he shipped back his Shiro inside the Shiro box in which it came in purportedly damaged and then he put that Shiro box inside a padded envelop. So to be clear, he didn't just drop an expensive knife inside a padded envelop.

FYI, the USPS already provides a padded envelop for both Priority Mail and Express Mail which I have used for shipping many smaller folding knives. Of course I put the original box and packaging inside another small size flat rate box before I put everything inside the padded envelop, but if the package goes underneath a heap of weight, things tend to get crushed whether inside another box or what not although adding an extra level of protection will not hurt!

So what he posts on Reddit? This is not a mutually exclusive sort of Community, is it? I think that the OP is making some valid points and valid observations. First of all, that even the mighty Shiro can manage to produce a dud or two here and there. What's this nonsense about not putting any sorta pressure on the lockbar?!
 
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This thread was originally posted in the GKD but was moved here by one of the Mods, I presume. I don't think that the only absolute intent of the OP was to specifically leave a feedback on a couple of none members on this Site.
 
^ Please do the member's here on BladeForums a favor; stay over on Reddit, and don't come back. You've already proven yourself to be once colossal stupid f-ing idiot! Who on Earth would mail a Shirogorov (or any knife for that matter) back in a padded envelope, & then complain about the consequences to their supreme stupidity??? You, evidently

If Recon1, did in fact blacklist you, they made the right call! I sure in the hell wouldn't deal with you! :thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

^ :thumbsup:

^ Bravo! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

KELAMA KELAMA , in the past you have spoken up for a thief and advised that they were good people, only to have them IMMEDIATELY pull the same crime.

Now you advise someone on their second post that was moved to GBU to "stay on reddit and don't come back" and call them a "Colosal stupid F'ing idiot".


Do everyone a favor and stop PONTIFICATING.
Your own screw ups are LEGENDARY ! :thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

EDIT :
pontificate verb [ I ]
us /pɑnˈtɪf·ɪˌkeɪt/

to speak in an important manner as if only your opinion was correct
 
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Very disappointing to read the way some of our more tenured members treat a newly registered member. There is no need for the comments he received, and the lack of common courtesy and some simple respect is really uncalled for. I will say this, if I continue reading this kind of "welcome" being given to people that have a perceived issue, I'm going to skip the niceties my self and start heavily infracting or banning the rude individuals that cannot seem to behave in a civil manner. If someone is wrong, take a deep breath and make an effort to educate them in a calm and patient manner, you are giving this forum a bad reputation and I personally will not have it. This is the final time I am going to post this.
 
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