Porosity in a blade.

Recon
Still curious, was the brass handle solid brass? Or was it hollow and filled with epoxy ect?
Great topic, thanks for posting this thread.
Jim


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What? Another knife? Don't you have enough of those things already?
How many does one person need?
And just what are you going to do with this one that you can't do with the others?
What is the purpose of all these knives anyhow??

 
How do tests like dye penetrant and Magnaflux (?) do ? I'll guess that x-ray is the only way to pick up subsurface flaws but a lot of problems also seem to extend to the surface. It's also surprising that more knife makers don't offer such tests or that more customers don't demand such tests, considering the advertised performance and cost of some knives.
 
Nice to see the pics. Good blades there Bill, the kami's are doing their jobs well!
 
In the AK flic you can see the hooks that hold the hammer in full auto.

Dances with donuts.

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The pix show no porosity which I think maybe depends more on the steel than the kami but am not sure and it shows no fold lines which is entirely dependent of the kami. It is a good blade.

Uncle Bill
 
I would be inclined to give the kami's some credit on the porosity side for sure. The hammer forging is a tried and true method of making a superior steel product with minimum voids and maximum stability.

They have done well. I know what leafspring steel is like. If they used the stock removal method you would see lots of impurity.
 
Porosity in steel, could it be? It happens all the time guys. Mostly with investment castings, but even in rolled or extruded parts as well. Hammer forged parts get less of it, but if the forging process is only lightly done, the porosity is only removed from the surface of the metal and not the entire part. For example an aircraft manufacturer has parts forged using a 25 ton hammer forge. This forge has enough force to compress the entire part and not just the surface in one blow. A man doing the same work by hand will take much longer, but can still do it. So even an incorrectly forged item can have porosity. Porosity can also be increased by improper heat treatment and/or improper cool or quench after casting. There is no doubt that a forged part is much stronger than the equivalent cast part. This is probably the reason why the forged khukuri's have no imperfections; some poor guy is hammering away for quite a while on these blades. If the porosity becomes large enough it is actually called voids, and is not good. But what do I know!!
Getting to things that I do know about, as follows:

Someone mentioned Baker's mix, I have a baker/butcher joke for you guys;

An old lady walks in to a butcher shop and asks for bread. The Butcher says; "lady we don't sell bread here", so she leaves.

A little while later the same old lady comes back and says; " I would like a loaf bread, please" . the Butcher, remembering her, says; " lady as I told you before, we don't sell bread here, only meat".

The lady comes back a while later and again, asks to buy some bread, so the butcher says; "lady, do you know how BREAD is spelled?" , and she says;"yes" and he says; "well, I spell it B R E f*ck A D." The lady looks at him and says; "there is no f*ck in BREAD", and the butcher says;"lady, that's what I have been trying to tell you, there is no f*ckin bread"!!!
 
Thanks for the info Howard.

The X-ray would almost be capable of detecting individual metal atoms. Process the signal would be a challege.

Will

[This message has been edited by Will Kwan (edited 24 August 1999).]
 
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