Possible Counterfeit CQC-10

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Dishonor39

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I recently purchased a CQC-10 partially serrated with a satin finish blade from what has in the past been a honest dealer in the past and upon receiving the blade I was shocked to find that the knife delivered was not the knife I had been seeking to order. The CQC-10 that I had been looking at appeared to have a smooth sand blasted satin finish, with a swedge / false edge on the top spine of the blade. This knife however, did not. It appears to have a textured silver paint or epoxy finish, and no swedge / false edge on the blade. The production year is 2006 and its serial is in the 0200s. I was wondering if anyone who has great knowledge or familiarity with the history of this particular knife's production history could help me out, or suggest what production year I need to be looking for if this is just an earlier production. The fit and finish seems... correct, not as perfect as my A-100 circa 2009, but close enough. The scales seem the same, the jimping on the liner seems to be a big more aggressive than that of the A-100, and the rounded jimping on the thumb ramp seems to be a larger diameter than that of the A-100. Any assistance you guys could offer would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for your time and knowledge.

Edit: The knife also makes a rattling noise when the blade is partially open through out the whole sweep of opening the blade. Its not the blade that rattles, it sounds like a washer or something is rattling inside the pivot area. Haven't taken it apart yet, don't wanna tamper with it in case I have to return it. When the blade is closed it does not make the noise, and when its locked open it doesnt make the noise, but if the blade is partially open, even if I hold both the blade and the handle, something is rattling in the pivot.
 
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The rattling, it's the stop pin slapping sideways against the scales within the liners. They all do that. All of mine do so when partially open. They do NOT rattle when locked open or closed because the blade hold them securely in place and prevent pin movement. Most people never notice this.

As far as counterfeit, I've only seen the Commander being faked. And in a very bad, noticeable way when compared to a real Emerson.

If you go the Emerson website, they have several pages dedicated to displaying the differences of the counterfeits.
 
I just logged back on to update and you guys who said the stop pin were correct. I figured it out moments before I logged back on. My Mini A-100 pin doesnt rattle, I assumed that the fit and finish would be such that it would prevent it from rattling. I also checked the pin on my older Raven and it also doesnt rattle. I have read the pages on the Emerson site regarding the counterfeiting, thats what lead me to wonder in the first place. I have never held a counterfeit knife to my knowledge by any manufacturer but I have also read and heard that usually there is a very noticeable difference in quality. I am less worried its a counterfeit and more wondering if older production models were just different. I'm gonna call Emerson tomorrow and see what they say. All further advice or information is still very much welcome. Thanks.
 
I don't think you've used these folders enough to develop some stop pin slack. When you do, I assure you they will rattle as well.

And yes, you'll find Emerson knives where some have a swedge and others don't. Different finishes, logo markings and colors to name a few, are some of the differences found on Emerson knives from previous years, or custom production.
 
I don't think any of my Emerson regular users rattle. Some have more than enough hard use to be called "broken in" or worn.
 
What happened there is the dealer shipped you one of the older models, the ones made before Emerson switched to the new finish and swedged blades in 2010. I would ship it back and tell them you want one of the newer releases with the stonewashed finish and swedge because that is what they advertised.
 
I think the stop pins are loose or "free floating" to help them rotate a little bit and prevent a flat spot from developing from continuous use/opening.
 
RJ said:
I think the stop pins are loose or "free floating" to help them rotate a little bit and prevent a flat spot from developing from continuous use/opening.
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Exactly. The rattle is normal and a good thing.
 
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