Possible deal alert for someone close to Dayton, Ohio

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Deal Spotting is not allowed.
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kwakn said:
Just curious, what is the logic behind the rule?
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Dealers pay to use bladeforums to promote their business and if someone tells everyone about someone selling an item for a good deal it takes away from the dealers that pay to use bladeforums.
 
BenLong1018 said:
Dealers pay to use bladeforums to promote their business and if someone tells everyone about someone selling an item for a good deal it takes away from the dealers that pay to use bladeforums.
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Thanks. With that I start thinking about A, B, & C tier customers, secondary markets, disaggregated distribution models, selling models, price discovery constructs, and in my devil's advocate mind, don't maker's pay too and shouldn't their 'costs' rank with dealer's 'margins'? ...........gotta stop....

I come here to get away from work so I think I just gotta let it go :)
 
BenLong1018 said:
Dealers pay to use bladeforums to promote their business and if someone tells everyone about someone selling an item for a good deal it takes away from the dealers that pay to use bladeforums.
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Are you kidding me... really?.... really?....

I was under the impresion that these places were here to pool ideas and help eachother out but I guess that was wishfull thinking.
 
setlab said:
Are you kidding me... really?.... really?....

I was under the impresion that these places were here to pool ideas and help eachother out but I guess that was wishfull thinking.
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You were absolutely correct. Just don't deal spot. I was chided for that a short time after I joined. A number of businesses sell their goods on this site after paying for the appropriate membership. It is not fair to those businesses.
 
They also don't want the forum to become just a pile of people pointing out craigslist ads and ebay auctions. It would smother the decent amount of discussion that we have. I personally wouldn't mind in some cases, but it is so irrelevant for so many members of the forum that it is more a waste of space than anything else. I agree, though, I wouldn't mind having a deal-spotting forum that was for paid members only.....
 
I scored a Rockwell hardness tester because someone shared the info here and I made the connection before it was deleted. Boy was I ever grateful I saw the post before it was struck. I hear that those are the rules and hear the reasons, but sometimes ya just gotta wonder. I pay to be a member here too and appreciate hearing about opportunities as well as people's successes scoring cool deals. Sometimes procedures and policies just suck, but hey, that's the owner's rules so there ya go.
 
This comes up about once a year. I know that it seems like a silly rule, but the rules are all we have to keep things sane here.
If we allow these rules to be broken all the time, the forum would clog up and fall apart.

Here is a scenario that may make the rule easier to understand:

Registered user Joe Smith has a power hammer he wants to sell. He doesn't have a membership that allows him to put it in The Exchange, and he isn't allowed to sell it in Shop Talk, so he puts it on Craig's list. He then puts a thread up in Shop Talk ( and on every knife forum that he can find) about the "GREAT DEAL ON A POWER HAMMER" he spotted on Craig's list.

That example aside, it is not about the dealers who have paid for the right to sell, it is about the rules against any sort of selling and buying in any forum except The Exchange. The heading for Shop Talk says it is for "The art of knife making - advice on methods, supplies, and materials" The advice does not cover buying and selling, however.

If we allowed every person to post a new thread about a deal they spotted in the trader paper, ebay, or some other selling/auction site, it would clog Shop Talk up so bad that there would be no knife making discussion. Think about why you came here.....Was it for the deals you could find, or the great advice you could get?

We bend the rule a bit when someone posts an informational thread about a product they bought, or have developed. If anyone wants to buy or sell one, they are advised to take that discussion to PM or email.
We also allow the threads about the great hauls our members find in Craig's list and yard sales. We want the members here to be a big family and share their joys and sorrows, but please don't put up any threads or posts that specifically refer to buying or selling.

If someone posts a thread that asks about where to buy a power hammer, others can reply about the makers and dealers they have had or heard good things about...that is a discussion.
A fellow forumite may even send the poster an email or PM and point the person to someone they know , or a listing, that has one. Just don't do it on the forum.

Unless it is blatant SPAM, the mods just edit the post, and in some cases send a note to the poster. No one is penalized for these actions unless it is a repeated pattern.

Final comment:
Do you want a hardness tester, power hammer, belt grinder, etc....and are looking for a deal? Why not do a weekly search on Craig's list, ebay, and check The Exchange. Isn't a little effort on your part worth saving a few bucks and finding what you want.
 
My line of thought parallels Phil's on this... but I understand the notion that it could go to hell in a hurry.

But after reading Stacy's post, now I'm wondering. So if we have a paid membership, can we post something like this thread in the Exchange???

Thanks :)
 
Nick,
I don't think Spark wants deal spotting anywhere. There may even be copyright issues.

I'll ask if he would consider a "Deal Spotter" subforum in the Community Discussion Forums.
 
There wan't any copyright issues. It was a craigslist add I had ran across, not mine or anyone I knew. A deal spoting forum would be great, but it sounds like a stagnant idea from looking at the tool and supplies for sale forum. I've pretty much stopped checking there because there really is never anything new posted besides the same couple of guys selling high end knife scales. I was unaware you had to be a paying member to post for sale adds, maybe I'm just used to the way AR15.com does things; I'm sure most of you are familiar with that place. They have a great buisiness model to run a forum by.
 
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