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Hey guys I'm profiling my first batch(20) of stainless (CPM 154) .093 They are going to be paring and kitchen utility knives.I'm going to do bevel grinding post heat treat. Do I need to remove the mill scale before heat treating or can I grind that off after, while doing the bevels? ...I'm sending them out for heat treatment.
 
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Its bad enough taking off mill scale. taking it off with hardened steel underneath is bound to be worse.

Ive left some on the blade where its going to be ground off by bevel grinding but on the flats theres no reason not too.
 
Yes, definitely get the mill scale cleaned off before HT. (and of course, drill/chamfer all holes before HT!) If you have access to a surface grinder, by all means use it :)

I almost always grind and finish my stainless and tool-steel blades right down to finished dimensions and edge-thickness before HT, because I use Peter's HT and they've never sent me one back warped. So grinding/sanding it when it's annealed saves me some time and belts.

If you require a belt/scotchbrite/tumbled finish, then HT'ing before the grind is no problem at all, especially with thinner stock. But you do not want to be handsanding CPM-154 or Elmax or D2 or CPM-3V @ 58 or 60Rc... trust me on that :o It will take for-freaking-ever and make you say bad words.

You need to leave much more thickness at the edge/tip when using carbon steel; it tends to wobble/warp along very thin sections much more during the heating and quench. I learned that the hard way, too. On the other hand, hardened carbon steel is much easier/faster to grind and handsand than hardened stainless, so it's really not a big problem.
 
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Thx James. No surface grinder, just the old welders magnet and platen ;) I will def. do the flats before HT. Still thinking about the bevels.
 
Still thinking about the bevels.

Do at least one each way (pre or post), work through them, and decide for yourself. That's the only way you'll really know what works best for you.

Never forget, it's totally OK to make a "mistake" or find the "wrong" way to do this stuff... as long as you learn from it. :)
 
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