Post-Survival Adrenaline Release: When ya CAN'T stop talking!

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Thought I'd relay a story and ask anyone if they've had similar experiences...?

It's a story about the "data dumping" that can happen after a traumatic event. It was a post-life and death survival situation. And, it was hilarious in this case.

Friends and I got stranded above the treeline overnight, at the edge of a cliff, with 60-70 mph winds hammering our tents and threatening to blow us over the edge. There were also bones, skulls and other pieces of prey animals, combined with fresh grizzly tracks all around us. I had accidentally slid down a glacier right above the cliffs at about 40 mph, crashing and rolling on the broken up rocks below, cracking a bone in my hip. We were up all night in side our tents, which we could only secure by piling low walls of rocks around, getting hammered by the winds, ready to be selected at any moment as an easy meal, and wondering if a blizzard was going to roll in on us and make it impossible to get up or down.

Luckily, I was first up the next day, Sun, no snow. Nobody eaten as a griz-snack. Nobody blown over the edge. Nobody had slept a wink. Imagine that SHTF adrenaline dump lasting all night and the next day without pause. We were forced to climb back up 1/2 mile of glacier, then back up 800 ft of cliffs to get out that day. We then had to hike and find a campsite to recover. All this with 70 lb packs on. That took awhile, as we decided to head back down below the treeline. We were not able to relax and release yet. We were so tired though, when we sat to rest for a moment, several members of the party nodded off instantly while sitting up.

At one point, back down below the treeline, a thru-hiker, half-jogging-half-walking, wearing his designer dolphin shorts, came around the bend, and said, "How are you?" with a smile, and without slowing down.

I opened my mouth, meaning to say, "Fine, thanks, and you?" But in painstaking detail, I literally and involuntarily regurgitated our whole ordeal in the span of the 10 seconds it took for him to walk past us.

Iwastalkingwithoutpauseortakingabreathandspewingforth - like a machine gun firing 6000 rounds-per-minute!

He looked at me with a forced smile, and like I had three heads, and politely responded, "Isn't that nice." Code for, "Not interested." And kept going, maybe even speeding up a little. Of course, the guy was being polite, and he fully expected the usual, "Fine, and you?" in response.

Instead, he got my life's story.

I paused as it dawned on me what I just did. I looked at my cohorts with an expression that obviously betrayed my thoughts: "Did I just tell that guy my whhhhhhhhhhhollllllllllllllllllllle ordeal in 10 seconds?"

After the pause, all of us staring quizzically at each other, my brother said, "Brian, he just asked you how you're doing."

We all exploded, fell over, laughing maniacally. One of my friends squatted down in place with his eyes squeezed shut, crying his eyes out from laughing so hard. We couldn't stop. The laughing/crying went on and on. It was a huge release of that adrenaline buildup we had been holding inside us.

I have never lived that moment down to this day. :D:D:D

Anyone else ever have something like this happen?
 
Yeah, but my lawyer told me to shut up...

No actually, I haven't but I have heard about this before. Adrenaline, stress, and lack of sleep are a bad combintion. Mac
 
LOL! :D

Mas Ayoob frequently talks about this in classes regarding post-shooting trauma.

Like Pict said, in that situation, SHADDUP!

== FLIX
 
LOL! :D

Mas Ayoob frequently talks about this in classes regarding post-shooting trauma.

Like Pict said, in that situation, SHADDUP!

== FLIX

Yup, we discuss this in tactical training all the time. I always tell this story to relate what can happen, and to keep yer mouth shut if you are involved in any violent encounter. It's a way of illustrating it for folks.
 
It Happened to me a bunch of years back when I had got done with some training...I laugh at myself now but was wondering what is wrong with me...I'd been training for a couple of days straight and on the first night we all went out for drinks...Way to many drinks !! So the next day back at the Dojo and worked out maybe 6 more hours...After playing around will skilled partners for the day, I went home and sat down on the floor to take off my shoes and began to shake, laugh and maybe even cry a minute or too...I realized what had taken place....Adrenaline just blasted through me...I can say It has happened a few times in my lifetime, very strange feeling...I did however recognize it...Although I was alone I talked alot to myself ....LOL
 
I've had this happen to me and seen it in others after particularly violent encounters with inmates. Gotta be careful what you say.
 
Similar happened to me after a drive home from a job ...

we went past a truck dragging three tanker trailers on a dirt road , by the time he went past we were blinded by bulldust , the driver of our car was killing the speed as fast as he could ( we had been hauling along at 140 kmh with a overloaded tailer behind our vehicle ) but by the time the dust cleared , we had a split second to see that we were about to miss a bend and go bush ..
the driver swerved ,the trailer swung out and added to an allready bad broadslide , he puled it back into line but the trailer made us fishtail ... after about 4 or 5 big fishtails ( we had slowed to about 90 kmh ) he just let go the wheel and swore and said "hang on wer'e going with it " ... I remember looking out my window and seeing nothing but road a couple times , .. when we stopped and checked the damage , we were upright but with gravel rash down the side of the car .. the trailer was attached and upright also .. we followed the trail of flattened trees and scrub back tot he road and kept going

barely ten minutes later we slammed into a big red roo , a huge buggar , the bullbar kept him out of the radiator but as he rolled under the car he stuck his leg bones thru two tryes , at 120 kmh on marbly dirt road to suddenly have 2 flats means guess what ? we are headed bush again like a whirl wind , round and round and round ...

when we stopped we were still upright then toyota troopys take a fair effort to tip over :)

swapped the tyres for the spares and again followed the path of destruction back to the road ...

all was good for another half hour then the guy aiming the car took a long blink .... and we went bush again ...

we made it home eventually , it was only a 1200 km drive after working two 48 hour shifts with only a 6 hour break between them ... the boss was furious at what his new troopy looked like when he got it back and dead set certain that we had been doing drugs cos when we got out to explain it no-one could shut up talkin ... 3 guys yabbering away full tilt about their version of what happened ... I dont blame him ...
 
I've had this happen to me and seen it in others after particularly violent encounters with inmates. Gotta be careful what you say.

I can imagine what that must've been like. This experience taught me what can happen, and so my training took it into account bigtime.
 
Fast talking ? My brother was in a plane that was hit by lightning.He said that afterwards the pilot spoke twice as fast !!!
 
Thought I'd relay a story and ask anyone if they've had similar experiences...?

It's a story about the "data dumping" that can happen after a traumatic event. It was a post-life and death survival situation. And, it was hilarious in this case.
I literally described our whole ordeal in the span of the 10 seconds it took for him to walk past us. Iwastalkingwithoutpauseortakingabreathandspewingfo rth - like a machine gun firing 6000 rounds-per-minute!

While I have never been in a life or death situation, I have found that that in the aftermath of stressful situations, I do tend to want to talk alot and very rapidly- both about the situation and whatever else enters the top of my head. No good stories to share.
 
The truth is, on the aftermath of any violent encounter or survival situation, everyone at some point does something goofy or humorous during the post-adrenaline crash, if everyone came out of it intact. The funniest stuff is usually at the moment the tension breaks and rushes out of you like a dam bursting.

When you look back on your actions in the post-event, if you're honest, you'll usually have ample opportunity to laugh at yourself. Ask anyone - cops, Spec Operators. Even if it doesn't feel funny at the time, it is at least a small source of humor after the fact, especially following a very stressful time. But again, if there is a lingering aftereffect such a death of a comrade, things are different. Then the post is nothing you will ever want to experience, ever...trust me on that one.
 
It sounds like some of you blokes are lucky to be alive - looking at you, Brian and Myal!

I haven't had any experiences quite like those, but I have experienced the after effects of adrenaline dump. The few violent confrontations I've had with people left me shaking like a leaf in a gale, in one case for several hours after the incident. I've also occasionally had the shakes after some hard BJJ training, though much less severe than after the conftrontations.
 
jh, those were normal reactions, for sure. The more violent encounters you have, the more you learn to mitigate the effects.

Sounds like if you got a taste after training, then it was damn good training. :thumbup:
 
The more violent encounters you have, the more you learn to mitigate the effects.

That's an interesting point.

For those of you with law enforcement backgrounds (or anyone who is often in confrontational situations in their job), how do you control these types of reactions to adrenaline dump? Also, do these types of reactions interfere with your ability to work effectively?
 
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