Post your examples of "Reputation Point Abuse"

[Planterz]

No, sorry, I don't see any explanation of why you support anonymous reputation point dings. I haven't needed any eye correction, thus far in my life, but, maybe you need an eye test? Why do you support anonymous reputation point dings? (I figured I'd ask again...if I ask often enough, maybe you'll stop dodging it....)

I suppose I'll have to S-P-E-L-L I-T O-U-T for you.

Because it eliminates abuse. If someone garners a red point because he's being an ass, one could hypothisize that such a person, an ass, having the opportunity if he knows the reputer, might have a vendetta. Even without the anonymity though, this sometimes still happens.

You sure are insulting Planterz. I'm glad that I don't have to stoop to your level when I have a discussion. "Whiny bitches" - implying that I'm whining and that I'm a female. It's too bad that you can't properly argue without hitting below the belt.
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Sorry, I also don't believe every word that an insulting, coward-lover tells me.
GeoThorn

True, true, I'm only a "Registered User" at BladeForums. However, do you really think that anonymously dinging me for not "supporting this place" will somehow convince me to pay for this service, that allows cowards to abuse the system? No, sorry, it's worse than that. The moderators and the paying members are actively defending the cowards that abuse the system. Is that a "service" worth paying for? Maybe, for the cowardly dinger, it is.

I still don't see how giving someone a negative reputation is abuse. Or is only abuse when it happens to you? You're the only one complaining about it...

I guess that the coward thinks that the only way to "support" BladeForums is to pay for a membership? I've been starting threads, posting responses, and engaging in discussions. Is that not also a way to "support" BladeForums?

Of course these are ways to support the forums. There's also quite a bit more regular memebers than there are subscribed ones. I'll admit my comment "Because he's right" was a bit off. I was just being a smartass there. Threads like this however, aren't exactly supportive.

One question though, which of the two posts received bad reputation? The one where you admitted to being cheap (by bypassing the regular rules and making a sig of your own without a paying membership), or the one where you called Nordic Viking a "prick"?

Sorry, I also don't believe every word that an insulting, coward-lover tells me. You are far more knowledgeable in the use of negative reputation point giving than I shall ever be.

So who gave you the signed rep point then? The Fairy Godmother? BTW, the limits on giving reputation work both ways, both positive and negative. Or have you never tried to give the same person good reputation twice and never gotten the "you must spread some reputation around..." message?

The funniest part is that I think I know who gave you the negative rep point, because about that same time somebody gave me a positive one and signed it. I'm only telling you this because I know you'll work yourself into another hissy fit over your unsigned, cowardly point.

BTW, you're welcome to give me a negative rep point, and even sign it if you want. I don't mind. Because a negative rep point from you won't mean a dingo's kidney to me. Just like a red one you receive shouldn't mean much to you either, right? I mean, if they're coming from "cowards", what do you care about what a coward thinks of you?

 

[Ren the devils trailboss]

Thanks for your anonymous ding, Planterz. You are now an official member of the cowardly anonymous dingleberry club.

GeoThorn

and if you keep up this tirade..you will be our newest member of the pirates cove PT list...

Geothorn..dude..its a ding on a reputation point. you acting like go were given a brain tumor by someone here..get over it. I got dinged the other day just so someone could say " You Suck" on a post that was talking about my Dad. And the reputation point abusers have been banned by the mods in the past if they just ding people.

Move on dont take it personaly...mean people suck. To date you have been a valuable member of this board. Dont get all butthurt and ruin it now.

have a nice day..

Ren

 

[averageguy]

GeoThorn, As you are aware I just went through this bull sh*t with these guys. As far as I can tell the only people who support this nonsense are the moderators and a few cretins.

There are very few times the rep system is not used in an abusive way.

Like me, you will be insulted until you give up the fight.
The vast majority here will succumb to the intimidation and not post to support you.

The most ardent supporters of this system seem to depend on the chicklets for their sense of well being and are terrified at the thought of loosing it.

Unfortunately, some of these are moderators and they will threaten to ban you from the forums. Their support of this abusive system suggests they may also be willing to abuse their power and actually do so. As a result these threats carry some weight.

The system is the height of stupidity but is supported by the owner of the forums. That's the bottom line.

 

[Nathan S]

The system is the height of stupidity but is supported by the owner of the forums. That's the bottom line.

In that case, I'm sure you would be happier somewhere else.

Why are you still here?

 

[Planterz]

One more thing...

My contention is that anonymously dinging someone...... because I'm not "supporting this place?" I guess that the coward thinks that the only way to "support" BladeForums is to pay for a membership? I've been starting threads, posting responses, and engaging in discussions. Is that not also a way to "support" BladeForums?

Has it occured to you that perhaps his comment was ancillary to the overall general impression he had of your post? What I mean is, what if he had left the comment section blank? You'd probably then get the impression that you said something he disagreed with. I certainly don't agree with what you said in that thread. 1.) IMO, it's not a big deal to make a sig like you do, but saying that you're cheap and this is how you can get around it is kind of a dick move, and 2) Nordic Viking is not a prick.

If someone gave you a negative rep point for either of those posts, I wouldn't disagree with it. Perhaps the comment he made was in addition to this sentiment. I don't know if this is the case of course, but it's a possibility I think.

 

[silenthunterstudios]

GeoThorn, As you are aware I just went through this bull sh*t with these guys. As far as I can tell the only people who support this nonsense are the moderators and a few cretins.

There are very few times the rep system is not used in an abusive way.

Like me, you will be insulted until you give up the fight.
The vast majority here will succumb to the intimidation and not post to support you.

The most ardent supporters of this system seem to depend on the chicklets for their sense of well being and are terrified at the thought of loosing it.

Unfortunately, some of these are moderators and they will threaten to ban you from the forums. Their support of this abusive system suggests they may also be willing to abuse their power and actually do so. As a result these threats carry some weight.

The system is the height of stupidity but is supported by the owner of the forums. That's the bottom line.

I had congratulated you publicly on the forums for going for the gold, now you're bashing Spark? Why did you get the Gold membership?

 

[roughedges]

geothorn:

I won't ding you, just ask a question.

I see you regularly in the political forum where you, in my opinion, do defend yourself and whatever point you are making with a certain style and eloquence and an obviously high intelligence.

Apply your interest in politics to this: what system, shared among seperate people, have you ever known to function perfectly?


Dude, get over it. One of the first neg. reps I got here was from a post I made that was only slightly sarcastic in a my maker vs. your maker thread. I imagine if I'd complained about how obviously ridiculous that was I would have soon found my way to Ren's PT list myself.

You are passionate and opinionated on issues. Given that, I believe you already know that you can't agree with everyone. I also don't think you care if someone disagrees with your POV. And that is fine, an admirable trait actually- regardless of whether I agree with anything you say. But given all this, I can't for the life of me understand why you give even a rabbit's crap about a red chiclet.

It's not about deserving the neg. rep. It's about how many members think you deserve it. It isn't a perfect system but things tend to work out in the longer run.

 

[Cougar Allen]

a brave and courageous non-chickenshit.

I am really tempted to change my sig....

 

[Bastid]

I just want to know of a Mod (who has that ability) who has threatened to ban anyone over rep points.

Get over it already. I will ding the children who keep bringing this crap up.

As a mod here I have been dinged so many times by many that I do not care.

 

[Gus Kalanzis]

AG you speak of intimidation. By whom or is this just more of your childish garbage.

There are very few times the rep system is not used in an abusive way.
- A lie


The vast majority here will succumb to the intimidation and not post to support you. Yeah right Where is the intimidation

The most ardent supporters of this system seem to depend on the chicklets for their sense of well being and are terrified at the thought of loosing it.
How do you even know this or are you just making it up.
(Never mind I know the answer.)

Unfortunately, some of these are moderators and they will threaten to ban you from the forums. Their support of this abusive system suggests they may also be willing to abuse their power and actually do so. As a result these threats carry some weight. (care to provide any proof or are you just making that up too.)

Care to offer any proof of any of that garbage? Or could it be that you are making things up to whine again?

 

[Ken C.]

As a mod here I have been dinged so many times by many that I do not care.

Wow! Me too!

 

[silenthunterstudios]

Are Gus and Bastid the same person? Is Bastid an alter ego?

 

[Gus Kalanzis]

Same person - Yes.
Alter Ego - No.

 

[averageguy]

"There are very few times the rep system is not used in an abusive way."

Are you kidding. The vast majority rep points are given as a result of support or disagreement with a particular position or simply as a retaliation when someone has been educated.
Very rarely for its stated purpose - to make newbies aware of who may or not may possess some useful knowledge of knives.
Did you bother to read my thread regarding rep points posted not too long ago.

"Yeah right Where is the intimidation"

Are you kidding. When moderators respond to these threads calling posters whiners - you don't think this is intimidation. Again, view my original thread on this subject posted not too long ago and the replies to GeoThorn when he started this thread.

"The most ardent supporters of this system seem to depend on the chicklets for their sense of well being and are terrified at the thought of loosing it.
How do you even know this or are you just making it up."

Are you kidding. The vast majority of those supporting this system are those with multiple chiclets and they do so in such a way as to make it obvious just how much they depend on them.

"Unfortunately, some of these are moderators and they will threaten to ban you from the forums. Their support of this abusive system suggests they may also be willing to abuse their power and actually do so. As a result these threats carry some weight. (care to provide any proof or are you just making that up too.)"

I'm not sure which moderators have the power to ban, but K.V. dinged me and threatened banishment.

"Or could it be that you are making things up to whine again?"

Are you kidding. The only thing I have posted are facts.

Fact 1. The system does not serve newbies as to who may or may not have knowledge of knives.
Fact 2. It permits the cowardly damning of ones reputation in an anonymous and unsubstantiated way.
Fact 3. It has no tangible benefit to the forums.
Fact 4. The most ardent supporters of the system are those with multiple chicklets whose sense of self worth on these forums is tied up in them.


Edited to add: I posted previously that I would not broach this subject again.
I regret that I felt the need to offer some defense to GeoThorne who got hammered out of the box with this thread.

I will do my best to refrain from posting further on the rep system, however

I dare the moderators to post a poll in the general discussion forum giving all members a chance to voice their opinion on this subject.

 

[KeithAM]

First:

I am not a moderator (duh!).

I don't have a long row of green ones chiklets (duh again).

I have no personal stake in defending the rep point system (I'm not sure anyone has).

BUT,

I've been dinged with red ones a couple of times, and, guess what? -- it kind of steamed me. In fact, it seemed downright unfair. However, I definitely didn't feel that it rose to the level of ABUSE. Nor did I believe my reputation had been "damned." It was just someone saying he didn't like my post. To even use the word "abuse" or "damning" to describe getting a single negative rep point is, to me, a gross overreaction. It's being way too . . . sensitive.

Abuse would be one person who has a grudge against you giving you 100s of neg rep points. The system does not allow this. And, you can only give rep once per post. These are sufficient safeguards against actual abuse.

 

[Ken C.]

I'm not sure which moderators have the power to ban, but K.V. dinged me and threatened banishment.

Whoa up there chief.............I did not negatively ding you. I gave you postive rep points for that thread and I explained why. I did that recently so there is no way for me to neg rep you in the course of 2 weeks. I never said I would banish you. If I did do such a thing I would have mentioned that if you continue your pot stirring and berating the mods of this forum (which is a matter of opinion) it's a banishable offense. I do not have the authority to arbitrarily ban someone without first holding a discussion on the matter with the Super Mods. I can however, ban within the Community Forum consistent spammers, trolls, and banned members trying to get back in under an alias.

 

[Gus Kalanzis]

"There are very few times the rep system is not used in an abusive way."

Are you kidding. The vast majority rep points are given as a result of support or disagreement with a particular position or simply as a retaliation when someone has been educated.
Very rarely for its stated purpose - to make newbies aware of who may or not may possess some useful knowledge of knives.
Did you bother to read my thread regarding rep points posted not too long ago. Yeah I have read all your whining regarding the subject. Did you take the time to read my reply in that thread?


"Yeah right Where is the intimidation"

Are you kidding. When moderators respond to these threads calling posters whiners - you don't think this is intimidation. Again, view my original thread on this subject posted not too long ago and the replies to GeoThorn when he started this thread.

You are the one who has to be kidding. you have conducted yourself over this issue as a whiner (even refusing to talks to Spark). That is the truth. Truth is not intimidation. If you are intimidated because I am saying you are a whiner for bringing this up numerous times and posting a link to it in the discussion forums. You have much bigger problems to work out in life than chicklets.

"The most ardent supporters of this system seem to depend on the chicklets for their sense of well being and are terrified at the thought of loosing it.
How do you even know this or are you just making it up."

Are you kidding. The vast majority of those supporting this system are those with multiple chiclets and they do so in such a way as to make it obvious just how much they depend on them.

That is not proof, just an unfounded opinion that is wrong.

"Unfortunately, some of these are moderators and they will threaten to ban you from the forums. Their support of this abusive system suggests they may also be willing to abuse their power and actually do so. As a result these threats carry some weight. (care to provide any proof or are you just making that up too.)"

I'm not sure which moderators have the power to ban, but K.V. dinged me and threatened banishment.

So you got dinged for posting this crap. I dinged ya too. It is unfounded B.S. You unwillingness to use an open channel to talk with Spark confirms that you are a whiner.

"Or could it be that you are making things up to whine again?"

Are you kidding. The only thing I have posted are facts.
No B.S. you posted an opinion. I can proove you wrong in your facts. No I am not kidding.

Fact 1. The system does not serve newbies as to who may or may not have knowledge of knives. (It is not supposed to rate knowledge. It rates conduct.)
Fact 2. It permits the cowardly damning of ones reputation in an anonymous and unsubstantiated way. (I have sent you anny. positive and negative points.) Nothing cowardly about it. Except in your mind.
Fact 3. It has no tangible benefit to the forums. (It tells me about the conduct of some over time. That is a tangible benefit.)
Fact 4. The most ardent supporters of the system are those with multiple chicklets whose sense of self worth on these forums is tied up in them.
(Take a look at my chicklet count)
All B.S. and no basis or proof other than your opinion.



Edited to add: I posted previously that I would not broach this subject again.
I regret that I felt the need to offer some defense to GeoThorne who got hammered out of the box with this thread.

I will do my best to refrain from posting further on the rep system, however

I dare the moderators to post a poll in the general discussion forum giving all members a chance to voice their opinion on this subject.

A.G. Your argument is silly. Like I have said before. Just becuase someone has a lot of knowledge does not mean they should have a high rep. As a whole, the chicklet thing tells me only two things. If a person has a lot - it means a lot of people approve of their conduct here over a long period of time.
If a person has a few, they have not been here very long. Either way it has nothing to do with the way they are treated.
If a person has red ones all the time. Their conduct has been noted by many as being undesirable.

I can back those facts up. Yours are nothing but opinion and you offer your opinion as proof of your opinion calling it fact.


As a Mod I can look up my chicklets. My red ones are mostly from WeaponWoman and some folks I have banned and have come back in. Once actually stated banning was lame. The huge majority of my postive ones (well over 80 %) come from posts I have made. Many of those from people I do not know.

 

[m1marty]

Ok, OK...I admit it! It was me! I am the chickenshit coward who dinged you Geothorn. I am the rep sniper who dings from the shadows. I'm sorry, now please, PLEASE
STFU!!
*Not really though, I'm making this up...*

 

[averageguy]

K.V. I don't know how to or can't access all my ding points but I'm pretty sure it was you. If someone can look at my ding points the author and the comment can be confirmed. If I have identified you incorrectly as the source - I apologize.

Kieth - if this were only about the occasional twit posting a neg point - I would agree with you.
But it's not and the system is rife with abuse. To use it for anything other than it's stated intent is misuse. Misuse in the extreme as takes place with this system is abuse.
There are no credible safeguards. Those intent on using it in a cowardly way will track down your posts and and continue to ding.

 

[Gus Kalanzis]

The first part of your post is again B.S.
No credible safe guards.

Ding me. (It is fine with me.)

Then try to ding me again on the same post.

Care to tell everyone the message that you get.

Find another post of mine.

Ding me. (Again it is fine with me.)

Care to tell everyone the message that you get.

Why are those messages not credible. Your opinion is that they are not the facts are that they are.

Fact is that the messages you will get when trying to ding me excessively are credible safeguards to not allow one person to establish chicklets.

Fact is that it takes a bunch of people to establish a users reputation.

Fact is that if you whine a bunch, a bunch of people are going to ding you.

You need to back up your "facts" with something other than your "opinion".