Post your RMJ hawks

This is my "Patriot" tomahawk that I purchased from Ryan back in 2000. I believe that it was the first "Patriot" tomahawk that Ryan made. I contacted him shortly after the Patriot movie aired at the theatre, and he agreed to make a similar hawk for me. I also carried this tomahawk during the Bicentennial of the "Lewis and Clark" expedition back in 2003. I floated down the river on a keelboat with the crew for 2 weeks....several of them tried to buy it from me..lol.




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It's funny how many people have asked to buy my hawk also :) thats a fantastic piece with some great history of how you have used it...thanks for sharing.
 
These are awesome hawks but they must be made out of gold for RMJ to be asking that much money for them!!!
 
I have several really nice custom hawks and none of them cost this much money. What I do know is that you do not have to break the bank to have a great custom hawk. If you are looking for one, get a hold of Coal Creek Forge. As far as I am concerned he is the best in the business. I suppose you fish with a five hundred dollar rod to right? If not, I have one I will sell ya......
 
I fish with an ugly stick. My fly rod is cabelas brand.

But to say that his hawks must be made of gold is just silly. There is a lot of time and craftsmanship involved in his pieces. If you don't like them, stick with coal creek and don't come in here to start an argument. I have heard great things about coal creek, but I don't own one myself.
 
I have several really nice custom hawks and none of them cost this much money. What I do know is that you do not have to break the bank to have a great custom hawk. If you are looking for one, get a hold of Coal Creek Forge. As far as I am concerned he is the best in the business. I suppose you fish with a five hundred dollar rod to right? If not, I have one I will sell ya......

So what was the point of that? besides being completely disrespectful to Ryan and his work? have you even held or used an RMJ hawk or are you the poster child for CCF? I suppose you think paying Don Hanson (for example) $2k - $3k for one of his bowies is a waste of money when you could get one cheaper else where?

Looking at your older posts all you post about is Coal Creek Forge, so I gotta ask...do you work for them?
 
Not trying to start an argument just stating my opinion. You people are way to touchy...Again if you look at my first post I say they are awesome hawks but just in my opinion they are way to much money...Oh and Robert B you are an idiot.. I think you ought to go and take your xanax really quick before you have a breakdown... really people keep it together and let other people have an opinion without lashing out.
 
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Let him go, ignore him, he isn't worth losing what had been a most enjoyable discussion. :thumbup:
 
Yes I have had a RMJ hawk in my hand, no affiliation with CCF. I will always call someone out for having a temper tantrum.. I do understand your passion for your hawk though. Have a great day!! :)
 
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And now we're back on topic :)

My RMJ is currently in transit with an art and antiquities shipping company to get it to my home in the US from Australia...I recently polished the edge, this pic doesnt show it too well but I brought it down to 2500 grit wet and dry paper.
 

I taught high school English for a couple of years, and I had this picture on my bulletin board when my sophomores were reading Moby Dick to show them what Queequeg's pipe 'hawk would generally look like.
 
Johnsons work is a whole other level above many makers...Its beautiful work...The sheer ammount of hours in a forge welded piece with all that filework, wrapping and pewter work is staggering...I know..Gotta give it up to him..
 
Johnsons work is a whole other level above many makers...Its beautiful work...The sheer ammount of hours in a forge welded piece with all that filework, wrapping and pewter work is staggering...I know..Gotta give it up to him..

Ageed!!!! Ryan's work top notch and worth every penny.
 
Value and pricing as it regards to hand made items is a bit like the nose on your face - it's right there and easy to see but if you stare at it too long it will make you dizzy.
I totally understand how folks can think that many of the handmade hawks cost too much money. (Some of the discussion sounded like comments my wife often makes - "people pay you money for this? but that bracelet has nothing but forged skulls on it!")
I don't pretend to understand how pricing in the market works - though there are some great behavioral economics books out there that I like - "predictably irrational" is one of the better ones and will certainly change how you shop at big stores...
I've come to this conclusion for myself: I pay what I feel comfortable paying for items that that bring me pleasure - I pay what I have to pay for items that I need. I charge generally for the amount of time I have invested in a piece. Like most makers I don't look too closely at my hourly rate because it would be a little depressing. Frankly I would make tomahawks if I never sold them and just pile them in a closet because it is what I do. I love the craft and it is a blessing that folks like to buy them. It certainly makes it easier to justify shop time to my wife...
Thanks for the kind comments guys - and all you hawk makers keep up the good work.
RMJ
 
Frankly I would make tomahawks if I never sold them and just pile them in a closet because it is what I do
I totally agree with this talented gentleman. I have a drawer full of knives and sheaths, some will sell eventually maybe, or not . I didn't make them for anyone else, but if I had to depend on the income I would stand on the shoulders of the giants in this thread and shamelessly imitate them.
And to the troll, I do have a five hundred dollar fly rod...cause I can........
 
Good thread, very nice hawks and honest conversation about about the pricing of hand made items.
I don't know how many hours work goes into one of these hawks- sure its nothing to sneeze at. Add in shop and material expences- your customer base just got very small. I'm sure the people that buy them also place value on the makers reputation.
 
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