Pot Edibles to sleep ?

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  1. 12345678910

    12345678910

    Jul 13, 2009
    Lately I've been sleeping 4-5 hours in 48 hours

    Who's got experience with using pot edibles to help sleep ?

    It's legal in Canada, sold direct from the govt by mail order.

    I don't want to smoke, or take that much. I like the idea of a nice measured dose in a capsule or pineapple gummy candy..

    I don't want to be high, dizzy or hungover, I just want to sleep 8 -12 hours a night.

    THC, CBD, INdicia vs Satavia.... mg's ?
    What's good or bad ?
     
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  2. Eli Chaps

    Eli Chaps Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    Apr 20, 2018
    Give CBD oil a try first. My brother has chronic pain and my daughter has significant medical issues and both of them say the oil helps them relax and sleep. No THC so no high or anything like that.

    Edibles are going to have THC so I don't think that's what you want.
     
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  3. Boru13

    Boru13 Super Moderator Staff Member Super Mod Moderator

    Apr 25, 2000
    Moving to Community.
     
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  4. bigsurbob

    bigsurbob Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 10, 2016
    CBD edibles with no THC exist. Give them a try first. If that doesn't work, try ones with THC... from an Indica, NOT Sativa. But, you'll be getting high from these. The Sativas might make your mind race while you're trying to get to sleep. No good for you! The Indicas tend to be more relaxing... and you'd probably get a body high. That may or may not be good. These tendencies are truly a YMMV situation. You may have to mess around with dosages, but generally start with a little, like a half, and increase as needed.

    If you're high, and you don't want to be, your best bet is to throw some good music on and try to relax. Maybe eat something. It'll end.

    Good luck!
     
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  5. Crazy Canuck

    Crazy Canuck Singing along with the voices in my head Gold Member

    Nov 24, 2013
    As others have said, try getting CBD or a mix of THC/CBD. Stick to indicas for sleep. One potential issue with the edibles is the sugar content in the gummies or chocolates, etc.

    Chowie Wowie has some good 1:1 CBD to THC chocolate and gummies.

    An alternative would be some softgels, like the Tweed Argyle ones. They're roughly 2:1 CDB to THC, and a fairly low dosage per softgel.

    As with all edibles, it'll take more time to feel the effects, so start with a smaller dose, and wait 45 minutes to an hour before taking more.
     
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  6. Piso Mojado

    Piso Mojado Basic Member Basic Member

    Jan 11, 2006
    I will give you my wife's experience based on recommendations from her doctors. Her medical condition is not yours (I hope) but she had a sleep problem and she used pot edibles for that, per the recommendations of her pain doctors who are anesthesiologists. In the USA, you see a "pain doctor" if you need to be maintained on opioid pain killers. A year or two before the pandemic hit, our medical establishment (CDC) finally admitted that some patients must be so maintained, but it is still a rocky road for pain patients dealing with non-specialist physicians and with pharmacies. Every patient's goal is to get their daily dose below the equivalent of 50 mg of morphine. 50 mg is where the statistical curve for accidental death and suicide begins to go vertical. The more you sleep, the less pain killer you need. That is how my wife's pain problem became a sleep problem, and her goal was 6 hours of uninterrupted sleep per night.

    Per her anesthesiologist pain doctors, THC is what works and chocolate bars are by far the best way to take it. My wife's average weight is 100 pounds, and they recommended 20 mg of THC at bedtime. You need to use common sense with this, because your appropriate dose of any daily medication can vary with the weather. In hot weather you sweat, you lose water and body mass, and the effective dose of your regular medications becomes higher. If you're dehydrated, a regular dose of your blood pressure medication can put you into hypotension.

    In our state, edible pot is sold in 100 mg chocolate bars divided into 10 segments. There are different mixtures, but most people use 100% THC bars and the dose is 10 mg per segment. A popular U.S. manufacturer nationally is GTI in Colorado, both for quality of cannabis and chocolate. Legal cannabis in Illinois must now be grown and processed in state, but GTI has a subsidiary here and their Illinois bars are sold at our neighborhood dispensary. My wife's experience with the Colorado bars was positive. She was able to reduce her daily pain killer dose from 60 mg to 45 mg morphine equivalent, and the sleep aid from her cannabis chocolate bars made her withdrawal less painful. In the end, they proved too effective as a sleep aid. Thanks to three kids and tubal ligation, she has reduced bladder capacity. She began pissing the bed and finally had to give up pot!

    I satisfied my curiosity about reefer and lost interest 55 years ago, when it cost $100 per kilo. GTI's chocolate bars are much more expensive for recreational users and I haven't tried them. I read a review of their Colorado bars online, by a man who said he weighed 150 pounds. He said 50 mg gave him a long-lasting high he could function with and do other things. With 80 mg he was totaled and fell asleep in a few hours — much to his disgust, since he took it to get high!
     
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  7. RayseM

    RayseM Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 18, 2010
    High CBD cannabis infused honey in a cup of herbal tea can be especially relaxing.
    Far fewer calories is a +. Maybe one mid-sleep bathroom run is the con.
     
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  8. Norcaldude

    Norcaldude Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 19, 2014
    I started doing this to help me sleep several months ago. It works great for me.
    I usually have a 5mg gummi a bit before I got to bed. Indica. I sleep pretty well most of the time. Sometimes I'll take two to really get some good sleep. I suspect I am building up a tolerance to it so I might stop for a while.

    Only issue is that I usually get dry mouth. Also, it would be nice if it was a bit cheaper.
     
  9. Cvrobinson

    Cvrobinson Going to hell, I’ll be back, anyone need anything Gold Member

    Dec 19, 2017
    Another vote for chocolate :thumbsup:
    They come in 1000 mg bars, 100 mg to the square :)
    Cut into 1/4’s for sleep just about right :cool:
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  10. Cvrobinson

    Cvrobinson Going to hell, I’ll be back, anyone need anything Gold Member

    Dec 19, 2017
    1/4 is just about right for watching the Masters on a Sunday morning also :) Second piece for the second 9 :cool:
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  11. Piso Mojado

    Piso Mojado Basic Member Basic Member

    Jan 11, 2006
    According to my wife's pain doctors, edible THC in chocolate is twice as effective as in gummies and other treif, meaning you get the desired result with half the dose. We call this cannabis kashrut.
     
  12. Bigfattyt

    Bigfattyt Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 23, 2007
    Also, be aware ..in some jurisdictions if you are taking nightly THC...you are above rhe randomly picked floor for THC per se DUI levels at all times. Habitual THC use, even before bed, and you will be driving with "DUI" levels in your system even the following evening.

    My state set the pe se limit so low, any regular user is always DUI according to the statutes. No actual impairment tests...no repeatable science.....just "because we say so!"
     
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  13. Velitrius

    Velitrius Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 3, 2000
    Our state is so great. Nobody "needs" a rifle. Nobody "needs" more than 7 rounds. Nobody "needs" more THC than we think they need.

    Man, when a .gov starts dictating peoples needs, that's when you need more than 7 rounds, I swear.

    My dad has been trying various edibles for sleep. He's getting there, but he has gone through a few. Keep trying is what I would advise.
     
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  14. Shotgun

    Shotgun

    Feb 3, 2006
    Have you talked to a doctor? There are so many things to try before resulting to drugs. They’ll help you a lot more then randoms on the internet.

    Contrary to what some like to believe, marijuana isn’t free of side effects. In this case it can compromise your sleep cycle which means even if it does keep you asleep the sleep you get won’t be as restful. This can create short and long term issues. I can imagine at this point you probably don’t care as long as your out but don’t see this as an end goal. Healthy diet, exercise and limiting screen time and other stimulus right before bed and all the other stuff is the way to go.

    As far as edibles go you definitely want an indica dominant. This is the sink into the couch type. I find that the effects differ between brands and between “flavors” of the same brand. Try a sampling of different ones until you get the one that works for you. Good luck!
     
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  15. SteveNo

    SteveNo Basic Member Basic Member

    45
    Aug 12, 2020
    Long time smoker here. I live in the Netherlands so it's been legal here since the 70s.

    First off I agree with the poster above me saying that there are other options to try first like exercising before going to sleep. Also first determine what causes your lack of sleep.

    That being said you'll definatly want a Sativa strain. Check leafly for reviews on different strains and if they help with sleep. Look for strains with high CBD levels. For me personally the CBD oil and stuff never worked without THC as there seemed to be a synergy between the two for it to make me sleepy.

    Tbh I don't f*ck with edibles as they have a different/stronger effect compared to smoking and are a bit harder to determine the dose (edibles are illegal here so I have to make my own from flower, usually bake a cake which means one side of the cake might have less THC compared to the other side. It's a bit "iffy"). If you do want to try edibles my tip is to start with a low dose and work your way up to a desired effect. Even though it's still weed, smoking or eating to much (greening out) is no joke and can be pretty scary, but it will pass and it won't have any lasting or harmfull effect. Its either because weed induced low blood pressure or paranoia.

    I would suggest instead to invest in a cheap flower vape (not a cart vape or vape for concentrates). It's a "healthier" way of smoking and has a milder effect. The good thing about a vape is that you can eat the weed you already vaped and put it in a capsule, or on a peanut butter sandwich and eat to get high. So after vaping you can use the leftover weed as an edible. So you'll use all of the bud.

    There's no hangover with weed. At least not the same as with alcohol. If you smoke a lot you'll wake up lazy and sometimes a bit groggy the next morning, drink some coffee and have a good healthy breakfast or excersize and your good to go from my experience.

    Edit: Weed and there for edibles (with THC) get you high. This isn't a bad thing and it will pass. If you ever think you get to high eat some candy or fruit. Also a good tip is watch something funny or interesting like a comedy movie or nature documentary. Music sounds great as well. And remember that if you feel a bit ancious that you are high and that it's ok. It will pass and you'll be fine again before you know it.
     
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  16. 12345678910

    12345678910

    Jul 13, 2009
    I've had that experience back in the bad old days with someone that thought it was funny to dose people.
    It was terrible.

    I did try some butter that was made into cookies, they were much more sensible and quite enjoyable.

    But now the stuff is government regulated, standardized doses.

    No smoking or vaping for me, asthmatic.
     
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  17. SteveNo

    SteveNo Basic Member Basic Member

    45
    Aug 12, 2020
    Don't let one bad experience keep you from having a good experience. Make sure you're in a (semi) good mood and have some snacks and drinks ready and put on a nice movie or music. For edibles start woth low doses and work your way up to the desired effect. Everyone reacts differend to a certain amount of pot as edibles. Also remember that edibles take a while to work, sometimes a few hours. So don't think it won't work and take another bite. Rather wait a bit longer or try again the next day and up the dose then by a little.

    Some people are idiots and dosing people is especially shitty as they take your state of mind and well being in their own hands by dosing you.

    Pro tip: the people you want to do drugs with are the people who would help you out if you shit your pants and not the people who'll laugh at you and gossip about it. You need to feel comfortable around them.
     
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