Potential health risks in using ferrocerium rods.

They're quite harmless, unless a pallet of ferro rods falls on you. The human body naturally contains iron, magnesium, and cerium, so they're not of any concern. Lanthanum, being a rare earth metal is a little toxic, but in ferrocerium it's found in minuscule amounts and it doesn't absorb very well in the human body. An injection of a lanthanum solution would be toxic and probably damage one's spleen and cause other health issues, but handling a ferrocerium rod would not do anything. Same with Neodymium and Praseodymium. Overall it's more dangerous to stand by the side of the highway breathing in the fumes.
 
They're quite harmless, unless a pallet of ferro rods falls on you. The human body naturally contains iron, magnesium, and cerium, so they're not of any concern. Lanthanum, being a rare earth metal is a little toxic, but in ferrocerium it's found in minuscule amounts and it doesn't absorb very well in the human body. An injection of a lanthanum solution would be toxic and probably damage one's spleen and cause other health issues, but handling a ferrocerium rod would not do anything. Same with Neodymium and Praseodymium. Overall it's more dangerous to stand by the side of the highway breathing in the fumes.

What you say about the body containing all these things may be true. Humans used to think it was a good idea to drink from lead cups at one time too. I can't say for sure but I do know the elements these things are made of go through a chemical reaction when they burn and the resulting smoke is not just the individual elements they are made of. Any individual component found in a ferro rod may be fine in small doses. Like table salt is ok to consume but the two components that form salt are highly toxic. I am wondering if this could be the reverse situation? I wish there I could find a toxicity report on the smoke that results from striking a ferro rod. I am very confident the smoke is not the same thing as the ingredients it started out as. I do know my lungs don't feel good right now. May be something else un-related I wish there were more info available. Not trying to scare anyone or over react but these are the kind of exposures that could lead to problems down the road. I'll avoid the smoke from now on though. Rare metals oxidizing and reacting to form who knows what kind of compound. Just sayin.
 
What you say about the body containing all these things may be true. Humans used to think it was a good idea to drink from lead cups at one time too. I can't say for sure but I do know the elements these things are made of go through a chemical reaction when they burn and the resulting smoke is not just the individual elements they are made of. Any individual component found in a ferro rod may be fine in small doses. Like table salt is ok to consume but the two components that form salt are highly toxic. I am wondering if this could be the reverse situation? I wish there I could find a toxicity report on the smoke that results from striking a ferro rod. I am very confident the smoke is not the same thing as the ingredients it started out as. I do know my lungs don't feel good right now. May be something else un-related I wish there were more info available. Not trying to scare anyone or over react but these are the kind of exposures that could lead to problems down the road. I'll avoid the smoke from now on though. Rare metals oxidizing and reacting to form who knows what kind of compound. Just sayin.

I think the amount is key here, as far as I understand a few scrapes of a ferro rod don't create enough smoke for it to be a concern. I haven't done any research on the matter so I could be wrong, but I think if it was severely toxic it would not be allowed on the market, or at least they would put some warning labels on it. We live in a very litigious society, where even coffee cups have warning labels, so a common product such as a ferro rod would probably be scrutinized fairly heavily if there was a possibility of bodily harm. Of course that's no guarantee, I would consult with a doctor if I noticed any health issues after using a ferro rod, could be something completely unrelated, but still.
 
Maybe in factories it's made in, has health concerns.

But in the woods, I'd not be worried about it, unless you're making 100 fires a day everyday.
 
Maybe in factories it's made in, has health concerns.

But in the woods, I'd not be worried about it, unless you're making 100 fires a day everyday.

Right. I was practicing hard core that day and trying to see what works and what doesn't. I struck it countless times over a period of several hours. I noticed I was smelling the smoke almost every strike. A half dozen strikes here and there I wouldn't worry about. My case is probably the exception to the rule. I am considering consulting a doctor if this doesn't get better soon.
 
I never understood how with so many products today, it's "known" to the state of California to cause cancer, but not to any of the other 49? Crazy... Good thing I love in PA, it's apparently not known to PA to cause cancer...

With everything g else in this world that's "bad" for ya. In the air you breathe, the water we drink, and the foods we eat, the least of my concerns would be the minimal exposure risks of ferro rod "dust"...

Drinking a fire from time to time, and having a bit of the dust on your sheath/ clothing, is hardly what they mean by " prolonged exposure"... That applies more to the folks working around that stuff in a production facility, day to day.
 
Toxicity is only a matter of dosage. There are a lot of things that we used to think were only toxic from prolonged, extreme exposure, turns out that may not all be so true. I think its safe to say that the smoke from a ferro rod should be treated like any other metal smoke, avoid breathing it. the compounds in the smoke are going to be different than they are in the rod, and I don't know what all those might be. There is also the matter of contamination, I don't know the purity of the originating materials and what contaminants might be along for the ride.

Yes all of those materials are in your body in some amount, but its the form, and where that make the difference, smear zinc oxide on your skin, and you don't get sunburn, breath zinc oxide smoke from galv steel, and life is pretty miserable until it clears up. I would say that using the knife for food prep after striking a ferro-rod would be fairly safe. But this is based on nothing but looking at how chemicals get processed through the body. And that most people would clean the knife at least somewhat. If you knew you were going to burn up a bunch of a ferro-rod in practice, then it would be worth having a bit of wind and fresh air.

Rollintent, if you don't feel better in a few days, or if it gets worse, go in and see someone, they probably won't do much, but you never know. lung and throat conditions can also be psychosomatic, not saying that this is the case, but its possible. it might also be unrelated, I'd try an antihistamine for a couple of days. (I'm not a doctor, following my advice may be fatal) Also keep in mind, some people are more sensitive to some metals than others, so that might have played a part.

And from the old section of the thread, Dr. Oz is a moron, and nothing from his show should be taken as medical advice or opinion. He is dangerous and should not be trusted. About like me, but at least I'm honest about that part.
 
I'm guessing the OP is from California. Judging by their laws they seem to have this mass paranoia that everything is going to kill them.

It must be something in the water.

The water here in California is known to cause cancer.
 
If I was anymore relaxed I would be dead. I also don't believe for one moment there is a single person out there ill or dead form using fero rods. :D

If you needed a fire and didn't have a ferro rod, you might be dead.
 
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