preperation

[foxx]

One thing about water that scares me is the sewage systems. Sure, I know how to bury my waste, what about everyone else?
Imagine if the entire city is using a bucket to flush the toilet. How long will that work?
The sewage is washed down the pipes from showers, dishwasers, from washing clothes, etc..
If the sewage treatment stops, how long before the pipes are full of shit? Overflowing in the streets and houses?
Nevermind drinking water, we'll all be swimming in shit!

 

[Tyrkon Lawson]

One thing about water that scares me is the sewage systems. Sure, I know how to bury my waste, what about everyone else?
Imagine if the entire city is using a bucket to flush the toilet. How long will that work?
The sewage is washed down the pipes from showers, dishwasers, from washing clothes, etc..
If the sewage treatment stops, how long before the pipes are full of shit? Overflowing in the streets and houses?
Nevermind drinking water, we'll all be swimming in shit!

Excellent point. One thing that stuck out in one of Cody Lundin's books in fact.

 

[Ultimate]

But, "THE END OF THE GASOLINE AGE" is coming.
There is no energy source like fossil fuels. Nothing else compares to the millions of years of stored energy/sun power. It takes fuel/energy to build cars, roads, nuclear plants, well, everything in the modern age. Unless it's found on another planet, we will be using limited energy in the future.
We are fooling ourselves in thinking that science will find another energy source, equal to fossil fuels.
I envision a future with more local economies, less travel, more beasts of burden, and less growth. The transition might be gradual, but it's coming.

(Addressed in order of red font)
-The end of the gasoline age is coming, but not for many, many years.
-We will not be using "limited energy" in the future. We will be using more energy from other sources.
-You will be dead long before you see any of that.

 

[R.A.T.]

(Addressed in order of red font)
-The end of the gasoline age is coming, but not for many, many years.
-We will not be using "limited energy" in the future. We will be using more energy from other sources.
-You will be dead long before you see any of that.

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

 

[Bridog]

Just thought I would post a list of some of the things made out of oil that society uses every day:

Fuel, plastic, carpets, electronics, glue, shampoo, detergent, toilet seats, car tires, cosmetics, asphalt in roads and shingles, bubble wrap, fishing line, insulation, medicine, dyes, paint, nylon rope, speakers, CD's and DVD's, bandages, anesthetics, and contact lens.

Thats all I can remember but there are thousands of things made out of crude oil. If something else could be used intead of it, there is no doubt that it would have already been utilized. Oil is here to stay for a long, long time.

 

[foxx]

I hope so. I just can't ignore that we have hit global peak oil. The rest of that oil will be harder to get, and more expensive.
The world population has gone from about 1 billion, to 6.5 billion in just 100 years. Our population has grown because of oil, the industrial revolution, and a paradigm of unlimited growth potential. That approach will lead to guzzling down every ounce of oil till it's gone.
I still think I will see the "end" of oil, in the next 30-50 years. There always be some in the Earth somewhere, but too expensive to obtain. Too many geologists agree with this prediction.

 

[stsparky]

Peak oil isn't the myth I'd bet the farm on. The new FUD attack is on "Peak Water" ...

We have so much food waste that could be converted into fuels, lubricants, and plastics - and if it makes us a more frugal species I'd call it a big win. We're on the cusp on something akin to a Hydrogen economy... BMW has prototype race cars that run on it as a fuel not a medium. The first diesel engine ran on peanut oil.

Plan for surviving in place for 3 to 5 days along with several exit strategies if the situation remains totally FUBARed.

For fun, google "L3 Enigma" ...