Preserve in back of my house

hlee, we still don't know if this is public or private property.
How quick would you be to shoot someone because you saw him on a state preserve?
 
You can experience the woods in any state park, state forest, federal park, federal forest, federal grassland, BLM land, etc (PUBLIC access land). Private land is just that, PRIVATE.

There's a state park thats 21,000 acres and one part of it comes about 2 miles away from my house. That portion is posted and has a locked gate which only (I guess) state workers at the park have a key to.

There's nothing special in that portion of the park. I've looked on maps and know the area and there is nothing but good old regular Florida oak forest there. To get into the park I would have to drive for 40 mins rather than just play in the area right next to me.

The land he is speaking of may very well be land that he and I pay for.
 
You don't know this. All you know is that there are signs that say stay out. Would you be so flippant about someone saying "I'm not going to do any damage, I just want to enjoy your living room?"

My property is my property and your property is your property. As the owners, we each have the right to make the rules of trespass and designate who does and who does not have the right to trespass on our respective properties. You don't have to like my rules or even understand the reasoning behind my rules. But the rules are the rules. I come from a part of the country where one has a reasonable expectation of being shot for failing to notice a NO TRESPASSING sign.

"Good fences make for good neighbors."

If you really want to enjoy the woods, find the owners and ask for permission.

You can experience the woods in any state park, state forest, federal park, federal forest, federal grassland, BLM land, etc (PUBLIC access land). Private land is just that, PRIVATE.

I'm glad that you live in a different part of the country than I.

I'm glad I'm not your neighbor. As for the situation presented...I would absolutely find out who the property belongs to. If it is property owned by an individual I would talk to that person. If it is state or county etc. owned I would just venture in and explore while not leaving my footprint (for environmental reasons and because you don't want to invite trouble or scrutiny). If it is owned by the state etc. and a problem arises it will likely not turn into a big deal and you can address it at that point. This is just my take, and I probably should suggest that you stay out regardless, but again this is just what I would do and may not be the the most advisable.
 
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I'm just curious, but have you used Google Earth or anything of the like to see aerial photography of the area in question?
 
hlee, we still don't know if this is public or private property.
How quick would you be to shoot someone because you saw him on a state preserve?

There are places, mostly along the souther border, where trespassing on large cattle/game ranches is common and where these trespassers are not averse to breaking and entering. On some of these ranches

POSTED
NO TRESPASSING
VIOLATORS WILL BE SHOT ON SIGHT​

is more than hyperbole.

I hunt public land. Land that I know I can be on, because I have taken the time an effort to research and scout public access areas.

The consequences of trespassing on a posted state preserve are not necessarily any less real than trespassing on a large cattle ranch. Maybe not a bullet, but perhaps a less than pleasant ride to a police station and maybe even a state sponsored stay. The point is that the signs are put up for a reason. Even local, state, and federal agencies have some amount of reason behind their decisions. You may not agree with the decisions, but you must obey them or pay the consequences. You may think that it is not fair that the state can bar access to PUBLIC land, and to some extent I agree, however, life is not fair.

There is a tract of BLM land (Public land managed by the Bureau of Land Management) a couple of hours south of where I live. It is completely off limits to the public. Just seeing a sign denying access may not give the reason that the mean ol' government is barring access to someone that just wants to spin the tires of his 4x4 for a few hours on some back country trails. The reason is a very large, and natural, concentration of asbestos in the very dry, loose, and sandy soil.

The original poster has basically posted that there is a tract of land that he/she does not own, but that s/he would like to hike around on and explore. The land, whether state owned or privately held is posted No trespassing. The OP does not have permission to be on this tract of land, however, the OP would like to justify trespassing on the basis that...

... I just want to enjoy the woods. That's all. I never get to experience that.

Let me paraphrase that... "You should let me do this because I've never taken the time an effort find a place where I am actually allowed to do it."

It sounds a bit different if you cast this entitlement attitude as "Give me money because I don't have any."

Regardless of whether the land is private or state owned, it is posted. State and Federal game refuges also belong to the public, but are not necessarily public access. Military instillations are public lands with restricted (very restricted) access (many allow hunting, though restricted to time, place, and total access). Even Federal buildings are ostensibly owned by the public, yet public access is restricted if not denied.

10 seconds on google pulled up a map showing the following...
Appalacicola National Forest
Okefenokee National Wildlife Refuge
Ocala National Forest
Osceola National Forest
Big Cypress National Preserve
Everglades National Park
No less than 20 State and local parks/forests/preserves
All within the state boundaries of Florida
To be fair, the Okefenokee is mostly in Georgia, but seems to extend south into Florida.

Yet, the OP wants us to grant him permission to trespass on posted land, "because he never gets to experience that."

Given the dearth of public access land in Florida, perhaps the OP would feel compelled to woods bum around Eglin or Mac Dill AFB.

There are a few things that I feel strongly about. Trespassing is one.
 
If somebody walked through my private property, I would be a pissed off individual. If they asked me first, I would probably let them trespass all they wanted.
 
The OP posted a QUESTION. We have been exploring the possibilities. No one is seriously saying "walk right in".

Until he finds out who runs the place, there's not much else we can say.
 
We have two areas near my home that have these sorts of signs. I know a couple of people that decided to explore. I'm sure you can imagine their feelings when they saw the men in the space suits cleaning up the super fund site!

The other site is asbestos related. Apparently, there is a lot more of that lying around than I appreciated.
 
Obviously I don't know what I am talking about. Sorry if I offended Hlee or who ever else read this, I just wanted opinions, and I know now. I will ask about the preserve before I do anything, and make sure I have all the details for safety, and permissions. For the people that said they are glad they don't live near me, I am sorry you feel that way, I didn't mean to make it seem like I just go into peoples property, I really have know idea what could be the reason for why it says no trespassing, but that is no excuse, I need to find out. I hope my apologies are accepted.
 
Obviously I don't know what I am talking about. Sorry if I offended Hlee or who ever else read this, I just wanted opinions, and I know now. I will ask about the preserve before I do anything, and make sure I have all the details for safety, and permissions. For the people that said they are glad they don't live near me, I am sorry you feel that way, I didn't mean to make it seem like I just go into peoples property, I really have know idea what could be the reason for why it says no trespassing, but that is no excuse, I need to find out. I hope my apologies are accepted.

I dont think you need to apologize of anything. I do think you got jumped on pretty quick for no good reason.
 
Obviously I don't know what I am talking about. Sorry if I offended Hlee or who ever else read this, I just wanted opinions, and I know now. I will ask about the preserve before I do anything, and make sure I have all the details for safety, and permissions. For the people that said they are glad they don't live near me, I am sorry you feel that way, I didn't mean to make it seem like I just go into peoples property, I really have know idea what could be the reason for why it says no trespassing, but that is no excuse, I need to find out. I hope my apologies are accepted.

I'm sorry, obviously I didn't make it clear who I was talking to when I said "I'm glad I'm not your neighbor." I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to hlee. He quoted "good fences make good neighbors," a philosophy that I don't particularly agree with as a general rule. If you look back at the post you can see that I qouted hlee's post. I think that hlee responded inappropriately to your question (I don't really know what his problem is), but I was just giving you my honest opinion to your question, a question that I thought was perfectly reasonable. I understand the desire to go into the area and investigate, and to be honest in many circumstances I would disregard the sign and go in, knowing that I would not do anything to disturb the area and any sensitive wildlife that may inhabit it. I just think you should try to get a little more info first (as you said you would) to make sure it is not owned by an INDIVIDUAL who would not be happy with you being there.
 
Oh, I misunderstood then. Yes I plan to get all my info first, it's one thing to just go in there but I would like to make sure first that there is nothing that is a health hazard in there

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A quick google of Botanica Lakes (in Fort Mills, FL?) shows what appears to be owned by Sloan realty, and also appears to be something just over 100 acres. I cannot confirm this, but that is what it looks like from here (after a 3 second search.).

Google maps satellite earth shows an area that is not worth your time. Might want to check out some of the public land someone posted about earlier.






Trespassing is never OK in my book. Ever. I would venture to guess that most landowners would feel the same way.

Always ask, health hazard or not.
 
For those looking to get away on public land in Florida...

National Forest Service, National Forests in Florida
http://www.fs.fed.us/r8/florida/

US Fish and Wildlife Service, National Wildlife Refuges in Florida
http://www.fws.gov/refuges/profiles/ByState.cfm?state=FL

National Parks Service, National Parks in Florida
http://www.nps.gov/state/FL/index.htm

Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission
http://myfwc.com/

Florida Department of Forestry, State Forests in Florida
http://www.fl-dof.com/state_forests/

Florida Department of Environmental Protection, State Parks in Florida
http://www.dep.state.fl.us/Parks/
 
Sign, sign everywhere a sign
Blocking out the scenery breaking my mind
Do this don't do that can't you read the sign?

And the sign said "anybody caught trespassing would be shot on sight"
So I jumped on the fence and yelled at the house, "hey what gives you the right?"
To put up a fence to keep me out, or to keep mother nature in
If God was here he'd tell you to your face: "man you're some kind of sinner!"

Sign, sign everywhere a sign
Blocking out the scenery breaking my mind
Do this don't do that can't you read the sign?

Sign said you gotta have a membership card to get inside, ooh

And the sign said "everybody welcome, come in, kneel down and pray"
But when they passed around the plate at the end of it all, I didn't have a penny to pay
So I got me a pen and a paper and I made up my own little sign
I said "thank you Lord for thinking of me, I'm alive and doing fine!", woah

Sign, sign everywhere a sign
Blocking out the scenery breaking my mind
Do this don't do that can't you read the sign?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vgf0dmzEf0 :D

Thought I would post up and represent my fellow sheeple's from the great republic of Kalifornia;)
 
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I would find out who owns it and ask permission if it is privately owned. If the owner says no then don't go in.

If it is public land than I don't really see an issue with going in as you are a co-owner.
 
Thank you HLee!:D I love this forum, finding that video gave me the inspiration I needed to learn that song on guitar just now after my last post less then an hour ago. Such a fun song to play and sing. :p
 
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