Pretty ironic w/ pics

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roughedges

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Considering that I just recently made a comment in a review thread that the CS LTC kukri performed better than I expected it would I find this Pretty Ironic.

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The blade broke on the outer edge of the 'C' in the stamped logo on the blade. It was a bad hit, made using my weak hand and at a bad angle due to all the brush around. Even so, I don't think it should have done this. I was chopping a 2.5" florida holly, nothing major.

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So, obviously I figure a knife meant for chopping shouldn't sheer like this. But I am wondering if the stamped logo could create a stress riser or if this is just caused by a brittle steel and bad hit. Either way, what with all the hype, I am disappointed in this. Like a friend of mine pointed out- he has a $5 machete thats been used just as hard and held up years longer.
 
here's the "tree" that did it in. Don't knock my technique too much- I'm a leftie who was swinging rightie in a confined area.

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Well, as you can see in the vertical crack in the trunk I mighta swung this a little hard. Hard enough to break it though? Samson I'm not.

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Another Cold Steel Triumph!!!! :barf:

It's safe to say I don't think I'll ever buy another one of their products again. This is about the 90th time I've heard about something of theirs breaking and/or performing poorly; not to mention my own experiences. WTF is wrong with them? Let's advertise the piss out of our products and then let's throw quality control right out the friggin window so an @$$ load of our products are CRAP! Makes sense right?! :mad: :barf:

Whether your technique was on or not is irrelevant; that blade should have held up regardless IMO. ESPECIALLY the way they advertise/promote their products. PFFFT on Cold Steel!!!!
 
Here we go again!

Here's an idea, replace under warrenty and been repeat the "experience" with the replacement.

BTW, have you have simular hard actions that other kuk's survived?
 
Now, I'm not excusing this in anyway...
But this is your fault.
Just kidding.
I'm guessing that there was a flaw in the steel/heat treatment there. But likely, this flaw was magnified because you were swinging right-handed. I'm guessing that you either hit at an angle not keeping with the angle of the kuk, or it was twisted in the middle of a cut. I've tried to do strange angle chopping south paw before, and it is hard.
But still, they put out a freaking video.
But I'm just guessing.
-KC
 
I guess it's hopeless to disagree, but ... out of the thousands of CS knives, you got a bad one. They will (probably) replace it. We have NOT heard of this happening often, although when it does, there is no shortage of pile-on negative responses.

Carbon V seems to be what Camillus makes Cold Steel and other carbon steel blade out of, but you don't hear people bashing Camillus for this break do you?
 
So, they let one out a little too hard. Factorys make mistakes, same as people. Send it back. I'll wager they make it right.
 
Lynn Thompson is crucified for our sins...
He's the biggest mall ninja of them all and most of us hate him because he's what we see when we look in the mirror.

On those two points, I must agree that Camillus is to blame and not Cold Steel. I must disagree however, that such a manufacturing flaw, albeit one in a thousand or more, is acceptable.
 
I have one of those same Kuks that I beat the crap out of for years and then gave to my father in law who has been harder on it than I ever was.

I'd be surprised if they didn't replace that for you. I've actually slapped mine flat accidentally a few times during chopping and it never hurt it. The stamp may or may not have a part in it but either way CS knows that thing should have stood up better than that. I'm with Esav, you got a bad one.
 
I just bought a 16" Craftsman gas chainsaw for just that purpose. Cuts so damn well I threw all my kuks and 'chetes in the pond ;) . I figure people have been lending me dull chainsaws all these years.....and Craftsman's warrantee is great.
 
MelancholyMutt said:
He's the biggest mall ninja of them all and most of us hate him because he's what we see when we look in the mirror.
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When I look in the mirror I don't see a fat pasty white guy. At least, not the last ime I checked. ;)
The opening of the More Proof video is almost painful - the whiney voice, odd face tics, etc.

But enough of Mr. Thompson.

The design of a kukri places a lot of stress on that portion of the blade. I don't think the stamp acted as a stress riser - it is small compared to the size of the knife, and wasn't along the line of stress. I'd guess a mistake in the tempering process is to blame.
 
I'd rather modify a $30 Kukri off eGay than buy one of those, either that or get the real deal from HI. Either way they will replace that, and if for some alien reason they don't, well I'm pretty sure they'll loose yet another customer for life.

And that verticle crack is probably from the weight of the tree as it lost some of it's "beef".
 
I am pretty certain CS will replace it too. The thing is, I am honestly not sure if I even want another one at any price. The LTC Kukri did good work, for awhile, and then this happened. What I worry about is that something similar will happen again- only next time, maybe I won't be so lucky. Makes me wish I had heard of HI a few years ago... whether I get the CS replaced or not I plan on buying a chiruwa ang khola kuk very soon.

And I am really not trying to jump on the 'kick Cold Steel where it hurts' bandwagon or anything- I just think a product marketed how this one is and with its SRP should perform a lot better than this one did. In the future, I know I will spend the extra money to buy from companies whose products match or better the claims made in regards to performance and ability.
 
one of the CS guys has visited this forum - send an email to this thread and have 'em check it out. I'm sure they'll replace it.

When they do, sell it in the Exchange and buy a Real Khukuri.

:D :p
 
MelancholyMutt said:
I must disagree however, that such a manufacturing flaw, albeit one in a thousand or more, is acceptable.
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I don't know what "acceptable" means in this context. A leaky ballpoint pen is just a pen, but a defective knife is an injury waiting to happen. Of course we should be able to count on reasonable quality, especially in a blade inherently shaped for heavy use.

But mistakes make mistakes. Just because it's shaped like a kukri doesn't mean it will stand up the shock a more massive kukri might.

That's one reason to use them with great care -- the larger the knife, the more care is necessary. At the top of the Himalayan Imports forum, this is the fourth sticky: Latest and Greatest Safety Thread. REQUIRED READING!. Even with these great knives, especially with these knives, safety is in large part the user's responsibility.

You can read other threads on that forum where they discuss testing new kukris for sharpness and temper. Taking anything for granted makes you part of any eventual problem. The company's fault, but your problem :(
 
So well said.

I think from my own experience in owning both the kuk that broke in this thread and the more expensive and thicker one that the thinner one worked better. It certainly penetrated farther with each wack than it's bigger brother by the same maker.

Contrary to what has been said here I'd still want one of the Kuks over a typical machete so I'd at least give CS the info and see what they do about it.
 
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