Pretty ironic w/ pics

I don't see LT when I look in the mirror(sigh) Makes me feel bad that I'm not half the man he is.


Sorry to hear that he's thought to be a dogpile candidate, though.
I guess he's in the same classification as a lot of the genuinely nice knife makers that I know, and have known, and I just didn't realize it. :p


Bad Tom.....Bad Tom! :p



Thomas Zinn
 
All of my CS Carbon V knives are broken except for the SRK. Granted, I have abused them, I still have AUS-8A bladed knives that are going strong with the same amount of abuse. Maybe it's the Rc hardness of 57 vs. the 60 in the carbon steel?
 
munk said:
But look at the bright side- you now have a much more deadly box cutter.
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ahahahahahahaaa!!! :D

that's funny as hell to me for some reason.

uhm, that's purty bad.. i haven't seen that kind of a blade break EVER, outside of seeing a secured sword get UZI'd. jeesh man, get a free replacement from CS & use it in the kitchen on large produce. then go hit up the kuk guys for a recommended list of the tougher knives.
 
In the other thread about the SR that broke splitting wood in a survival exercise, there seemed to be two schools of thought about what caused the break: the knife was poorly designed with a sharp angle that created a stress riser or the blade steel was defective.

This would point toward the defective-steel theory.
 
Hey, it's mass production and defecation occasionally occurs.
Look at all of the automobile recalls, for example.
 
Buy a HI Khuk. Serious. I have been waaaay more harsh with one of my Khuks without it even yawning.

The Chirwa AK HI khuk comes with a warranty that says it you can break it, they will send you 2 new ones for free. No BS

Robb
 
Although I'm an HI fan and spend just about all of my time here in that forum, I'm not going to jump on the HI bandwagon this one time. (Although, the price is similar and the warranty is a whole lot better...hint hint.)

My CS machetes routinely handle tougher stuff than that. You got a defective unit. That shouldn't have happened but it does, whether we're talking of cars, appliances, firearms, etc. They should replace it. Let us know how that turns out.
 
Will P. said:
When I look in the mirror I don't see a fat pasty white guy.
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Well,
You got a one dollar haircut, ugly gray clothes, and pasty white feet and chicken legs...
yeah, and you got ugly knives...LOL ;)

When you coming down to NYC and hit a strip club with the guys?
 
I'm actually surprised this doesn't happen more often.
The knife's width gets too slim back toward the handle. Couple that with the 1/8"(?) thickness of the blade and it appears to me to be a tad weak. This breakage probably would not have happened if the blade had been given a differential temper and/or a little more beef in front of the ricasso.
Seems to me that a knife that is fully hardened all the way through the blade and then taken down to that thin of a width in front of the ricasso puts a lot of stress on that area of the blade with each chop. Add an accidental side of the blade whack and that REALLY puts the stress on that area of the blade. :eek:

I'm in agreement with others in that this should not happen to a blade that has this much hype behind it.

Want More Proof? :footinmou :p :D :D :yawn:
 
Will P. said:
When I look in the mirror I don't see a fat pasty white guy. At least, not the last ime I checked. ;)
The opening of the More Proof video is almost painful - the whiney voice, odd face tics, etc.

But enough of Mr. Thompson.

The design of a kukri places a lot of stress on that portion of the blade. I don't think the stamp acted as a stress riser - it is small compared to the size of the knife, and wasn't along the line of stress. I'd guess a mistake in the tempering process is to blame.
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Stress risers are small. You are right in that the feature is too small to really affect the sectional properties, but sharp transitions (corners, etc.) cause concentrations in stress, aka stress risers.
 
Regarding Stress risers- of which I know nothing-
Was this knife tested before production by the makers? Of course; they would be aware of any stress risers. They must have concluded the blade as is to be functional and worth some amount of money in exchange.

I suppose we could wonder why they did not thicken the blade or differentially harden it, but how much money was this going to cost again?

Himalayan Imports has a khukuri that is very strong and at a generous price discount. If I lived in Europe, I'd look hard at Tora as well.

munk
 
^^

I think that it isn't cost effective for them to differentially heat treat thier blades. They're expensive enough as it is(and you're paying for..???) and I bet that a large percentage of thier customers probably never put thier blades to use at all, much less heavy use.

My thought is that mabye they are heat treated in a huge oven, and that the blades an the outer edges of the oven might not heat up as much as they should and that the ones in the middle are a bit overheated. If it was either it would not perform as it should.

Being as this blade snapped so cleanly, my limited knowledge would lead me to belive that the blade was treated too high, thus making it brittle.
(it would bend a bit if under treated- right???)

I am not by anymeans standing up for thier product, nor dogging it. Just think that in production things like this are to be expected. That plus thier marketing would lead you to belive that it was a superior product.
(I have the kukri machete and it's been working great- hope it doesn't go splits on me!!)

|M|
 
Of course it's not cost effective to differentially heat treat!

Say, how much do these Modern Marvels, cost, anyway? Could you get a Himalayan Import for the same price? Yikes!!!



munk
 
That sucks! No way that knife should have failed under very normal use. IMO that kind of failure isn't acceptable at all when you advertise a product of supposedly "unsurpassed" quality. I've used my GLK for about seven years now and have found it to be a very good knife for it's intended purpose so I don't think this is a representative sample. The CS GLK was supposedly issued to the SEAL Teams for awhile as a survival blade, can't imagine they would be too understanding about a "manufactoring defect" if this occured during an operation and you couldn't run to the store and pick up another chopper.
 
Hate to tell you but the breakage was entirely your fault. Everyone knows, if you want a CS knife to do extraordinary things you must first don your spandex shorts and yell "heeyah!" with every swing.

Sorry, I get stupid every time someone mentions the fat guy in bicycle shorts dueling with a slab of ribs.
 
jonshoup said:
Sorry, I get stupid every time someone mentions the fat guy in bicycle shorts dueling with a slab of ribs.
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You've got to admit - it was entertaining in a reality show sort of way. I should not be too hard on CS for this; I do some of the same things myself and it's quite enjoyable. I do not, however, wear bicycle shorts.

After viewing these DVD's at work once, my coworkers and I all agreed that if LT owns any dogs, they are probably the biggest, slowest, best-fed dogs on the west coast. He chopped up a lot of meat for those DVD's...

In retrospect, we've sunk to an all-time low: not only did we insult both a company and the head of a company in one thread, but we also managed to insult his dogs, if he has any.
:rolleyes: :)
 
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