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Prices have gone up

For me. Sebenza's are priced at a level that i find myself saving up and thinking about "the next one" for some time. So when the price changes, and you've been looking at it a while -- it hurts --> but I think there have been some good arguments from folks on "its business". I read Sal's great post a while back on why Chris Reeve's knives command the price --- its not greed -- its craftsmanship that goes into it. Besides -- greed implies being crooked or dishonest... he's not running a charity here. I'd rather a price increase than cutting a corner here or there to keep it flat. I see that from other manufacturers at times and to me, getting the lower quality stays with me longer than the ouch at the wallet -- which is soon forgotten.

Side-bar: I was curious what a Sebenza originally cost when first introduced (purely out of interest). A few of you guys must have original reciepts :)
 
Sort of as a matter of self-selection, most people here do experience the "wow" factor, but not everyone does and that's understandable, especially at higher-end prices (make up a number; over $200? $300?). We're lucky to have lots of great knives to choose from. :thumbup:

Okay, I take it back. Indeed I know very little about business realities as well as the history of Chris Reeve's price increases and thus made a knee-jerk post. I guess for me personally, I didn't find the Large Sebenza 21 CCG I bought to be as impressive and special as I'd hoped. It is a great quality knife, no question, just didn't experience the "wow" factor that many others do.

Cheers,
Isaeus
 
My first sebenza was a small 21. I didn't get the wow factor from it that I was hoping for. Mostly because it was a little smaller than I had expected.
About a month later I pulled the trigger on a large wood inlayed sebenza classic. Needless to say the wow factor set in pretty fast on that one :D
Still saying wow to this day every time I get a new one!
 
Side-bar: I was curious what a Sebenza originally cost when first introduced (purely out of interest). A few of you guys must have original reciepts :)

When I started collecting Sebenzas in 1999 I believe it was $345/large, $290/small, $280/umfaan for the plain models, with a unique graphic adding $100 to any model.
 
Ah, those were days... :)

Prof.

Don't want to give CRK any ideas here :) ...but just quick back of the envelope scratching suggests that a large Sebenza at $345 back in 1999 would cost $505 if it kept up with economic inflation (yes, there are a lot of assumptions here and you can poke lots of holes in it). Point being -- its all relative, but suggests that a Sebenza today is "less expensive" than back in 1999. Current economic hardships not withstanding.

Snap 'em up!
 
I too have an existing order and was wondering the same...

maybe Chris, Heather, or someone similar could chime in and fill us all in on how that will work?

I wonder if the old price for existing orders holds?

I have no problem with them raising the prices, but I'd be pretty bummed if the order I have been waiting for costs more before I even receive it.


I am going to call in tomorrow and see what they say. Im pretty sure theyll honor the price since when we ordered thats the price we were expecting.
 
Not surprisingly - knifeart's price for the large Insingo was $385 yesterday - today it's $410. I was contemplating pulling the trigger at the $385 price as I knew it would change quickly - then I remembered why I decided not to buy CRK's from dealers. :-)
 
These are still great products for the money. Over the years IMHO CRK has done a good job of holding costs down while maintaining very high quality products.

I have a price list from April 1992 - Sebenza's were $265 (only the large was made then). I have a price list from 2002 and the large Sebenza was $345 and small was $305.

Look at price changes over that period for other custom makers and production companies like Benchmade and Spyderco. I can remember not too long ago thinking I'd never pay over $100 for a Benchmade or Spyderco. That's certainly changed for their top end models.

Sorry for the rambling.... increases suck. But I'm still buying Sebbies cause they're still a great knife for the money.
 
I payed $4.19.9/10 or $4.20 a gallon of diesel just a couple of days ago, purchased a little over 29 gallons. Last year I was paying $3.48 to 3.68 though out the year. I will have no problem ordering a new Zaan when they start using the new steel even with the $25.00 increase. I want to have at least one each with the two steels, just to have. I do not order that many new knives a year normally, even though I purchased 3 new Sebenza's and 2 used Zaan's in the last month. This recent purchase pattern will not be maintained and I am sure I will go back to ordering 3 or maybe even 4 somewhat expensive knives per year. The extra $25.00 per knife will not hurt me especially compared to filling up my Dodge diesel truck does :). Every thing goes up, and I am sure it is challenging to compete against the Chinese/ over seas companies in todays market. But CR and other companies are manufacturing here in the USA and employing Americans here in the great USA. That is a big influence on me and I will continue trying to buy American as long as I can including Chris Reeve knives.
 
Well I called in today as was told CRK would honor the previous price if your order was placed before the price increase.
 
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Thanks for passing on the info about existing orders.

Cool.
I'm happy.
Can't wait to get my Small Insingo.
 
Don't know.
All I know is I picked up a small Sebenza 21 and a Umnumzaan and no longer feel the need to carry or buy any other knives.
Weird.
 
Don't know.
All I know is I picked up a small Sebenza 21 and a Umnumzaan and no longer feel the need to carry or buy any other knives.
Weird.

It's nice to be happy and feel like you've gotten what you need.

As fuel prices will continue to rise, expect more frequent price changes. Unlike the cost of raw materials, which is fixed in the cost of the knife, fuel prices factor into every stage of the fabrication and distribution process. Buying local will make more economic sense every day. I'm also proud to support North American manufacturing, something I think we've gotten too far away from with the cheap overseas manufacturing available while labor and fuel costs are relatively cheap.
 
I wonder if CRK had put up a notice to buy now before the price increase, how many
of us would have jumped in ASAP.
I'm wanting a Large Insingo Damascus bad, better call Heather & start begging.
 
Ok. Let me give another business owners perspective. I own a couple of restaurants and am in there everyday cooking and running the show. For the past 4 years I didn't raise prices. Especially once the economy really started to tank in 09'. We wanted to keep prices down so that those who were having problems paying their mortgage or maybe lost their jobs or people who were hurting at the pump could still come in the door and eat. The average ticket price was roughly $7.50 I guess(my math could be off right now). We absorbed ALL of the cost due to the economy. Gas prices went up and that effected us. Customers were not coming in as much. Even our vendors were charging us for their gas consumption to deliver. Next, food cost went up and that really hurt but still we stayed the same. EVERYTHING went up. Produce, Insurance, wood for my pits and basically anything under the moon went up. I still kept the prices the same. Well eventually I really started to feel it. I began to wonder if I was even going to make it through the winter last year. Banks won't help, I spent most of my savings to keep my customer coming back by not raising prices. I ABSORBED everything. I was in fear of pricing myself out of business.
We are one of the most successful and respected restaurants in my state. We have been in business since 1939. We had about 20 restaurants at one point and were going to franchise along side with McDonalds.
With that being said, success almost became failure FAST. I raised prices about 4 months ago. Roughly 10%. That is a big jump in my industry I know but I had to do what I had to do. Most people were paying only .50cents more for their lunch or dinner. My customers moaned and groaned to no end. The mayor of our city(Democrat) raised our taxes(in a terrible economy for his pet projects) through the roof and increased the food tax another 2%. My customers were mad at me because of it.
I had to raise my prices again 4 weeks ago because I am getting drilled by the rise in market(and inflation) but this time I only raised the prices 3%. It didn't help a whole lot to cover cost but if I raise them where I need them to be then I may as well go buy the nails for my coffin because people are holding onto every quarter. It's sad really.
Businesses around me are still more expensive but people do not care. They will moan and groan all day long. They come in and the average ticket will be around $9 with the same quality and portions. I don't get it. My competitors have cut quality, cut portions and have raised their prices higher than mine and I still get fussed at.
I had one gentleman literally scream at me in front of the entire restaurant because his lunch cost him .75cent more than what it did 4 years ago. I told him I am not raising the prices so I could stand their and be belittled by someone or to make my customers so angry to where they would never step foot in my door again. I had to do what I had to do.
Well the economy has managed to get worse(it's Bush's fault), food cost has gone up on me another 25%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, health insurance is killing me(actually may be the straw that broke the camels back) increasing 43%!!!!!! because insurance companies are being hurt by Obamacare so the private sector can not afford private insurance almost forcing us to cancel private group health care and seeking individual insurance. but guess what? We can not afford that either. Now I am forced to stay with my group health care plan and suck up the 43% increase. If I do not provide health care to my employees Obama will fine me even though I can not afford it.
the Bailouts are(were) a joke and banks won't even give big successful operations like mine a $25,000 loan to get through the winter months.
I have never had to go to a bank for a loan. Not even when I added a huge addition to my main restaurant or opened another. But now in this economic climate it is a different story.
There is A LOT More to the story but I just don't feel like getting into it.
So, after saying all of that, I can imagine why CRK raised prices. I don't like it myself but I am a reasonable person and I can sympathise with another private sector company. If we want to continue to buy CRK's for as long as they can produce them then we have to pay extra to make sure they are able to stay in business or that it is even worth their while. No one wants to bust their butts for free.

Are you in Lexington? I'd like to try out one of those sandwiches in your avatar.
 
Don't want to give CRK any ideas here :) ...but just quick back of the envelope scratching suggests that a large Sebenza at $345 back in 1999 would cost $505 if it kept up with economic inflation (yes, there are a lot of assumptions here and you can poke lots of holes in it). Point being -- its all relative, but suggests that a Sebenza today is "less expensive" than back in 1999. Current economic hardships not withstanding.

Snap 'em up!

Too tired to do the math but agree completely. A close friend first exposed me to the CRK craftsmanship back around 2000 (turn of the century) and although I cannot peg how much they were at that time, by the time I started buying this year, they actually seemed very righteously priced especially when compared to other high end production knives in my collection and even with a few customs. I would rather have a price increase which allows product development, continued production and happy employees who are continuing that production. They're not cheap, but they are worth the cost. IMHO
 
Don't forget everyone that they haven't had a price increase for the past few years. It was bound to happen sooner or later. Give them a break!
 
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