Prizes from Arms Show - khuks & kris

DD
Regarding the little kukri: I have no proof that these were made as a small version of an "officer's model", or for line boys, or just as a utility knife. The scabbards are true miniatures of their big issued brothers and the knifes all seem to be very sturdy and well made. The grip always appear with some type ergonomic "bump", a heavy brass pommel plate, drilled chos and stamped with "TEMPERED STEEL MADE IN INDIA". This one is very similar to yours at 11 1/8" and 12.5oz.
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Bill Marsh said:
some higher rez pix, especially the area around the base of the blade
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In first post I added a link to a high res closeup.

here's the low res version:

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Hey...........I see the elephant nose now!

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ddean said:
Hey...........I see the elephant nose now!
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Some people argue that this area is actually an eagles open mouth, as there arent really any elephants in the region (most of the ivory found on Moro kris has been obtained through trade, though the Sultan of Sulu in the 19th century did have a very small herd of elephants that was gifted to him by the Sultan of Brunei I believe). Anyways, one thing that is a dead give away on dating these things is the presence of aluminum fittings. At a certain point before technology made aluminum cheap and abundant, it was quite a rare metal and not common in the region. However, after WWII with the number of airplane shot down, suddenly there was an abundance of this metal for that all so attractive price of free. It is also after this time period that fittings start to be made of tubular stock and no longer brazed sheet, as another shell casings also tended to be another source of abundant stock. Anyways, this piece is most likely Sulu (trunk theory and hilt configuration), though the beautiful engraving makes me wonder if there was any Maranao handy work in there. Anyways, kris before 1930 have a separate gangya/guard, as you can tell on this piece it is engraved, and not a separate piece of metal.
 
Federico said:
this piece is most likely Sulu (trunk theory and hilt configuration),
though the beautiful engraving makes me wonder if there was any Maranao handy work in there.
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Trunk theory ?

Hilt configuration ?

Maranao ?

I'm a noobie in this area.

Details man, details.........

[or web page(s) reference]

I zoned out on keris/kris info the night after I bought this.
Took a while to drill down & find any pertinent detail;
& the session left me with eyes crossed & not much to show.

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In the first post of this thread,
www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2757560#post2757560
I'm adding links to hi-res kothimoda pix.

In taking the pix
I noticed that the probable chakma (before sharpeniing)
is marked on the butt.
Left -- 4 dots in the blossom petals.
Right -- dots left off.
Inset shows different lighting.
Subtle, but it stands out visually when they are sheathed.
Don't know if the difference is intentional,
guess so, it works well.

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