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Please, help me. Please, forgive me for my ascent, this is my second language.
I am new to knife hobby. It started about three month ago. I bought few knives, Sharpmaker, and ultra-fine hones. I watched DVD couple of times the first day I received it and sharpened couples Swiss army knives, one Zippo gent knife and Emerson Traveler AUS8 steel. All of them come out very sharp, I can shave hairs or split a peper. Later I bought BM Grip 551 with 440C and sharpened it without any problem but I had to regrind back bevel to 30 degrees and it did not take much time.
I am using Sals technique with Sharpmaker. After each step, I am testing per his instructions. In addition, I do magic marker trick when I sharpen knives first time, thanks to you people. On bladeforums, I found a lot of valuable information. I am reading forums for few hours every day.
I bought Native and could not wait for this knife to get dull to sharpen it. I expected sharpening process to be longer because of S30V blade steel and very sharp blade.
I used it for about a month I cut a few cardboard boxes, but mostly plastic bags, envelopes, some food. Than I noticed, it is not as sharp as it used to be so it is time to sharpen.
I set up my Sharpmaker on 30 degrees; put magic marker on the edge and after few strokes it is became clear that back bevel is 30 degrees. I decided to sharpen this knife at 30 degrees and than put few strokes on ultra-fine stones at 40 degrees, I read about this method on BF, and I wanted to try. It is came out OK, at least I felt this way.
The next day I demonstrated resharpen knife to my friend and I noticed that only part of edge could shave, so I decided to resharpen it again and put 40 degrees edge.
I followed instructions, put many strokes but I was not able to pass test on step 3 shave even after more than hundred strokes on the corner of fine stone.
I set up 30 degrees again and first time used technique from Joe Talmadge Sharpening FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS. It took about a hundred strokes on the grey stone to get a burr along all edge, than I change side and grind until I got a burr on second side and than I alternate from one stick to the other between strokes, and turned stones to work on flat sides. Than I reset grey stones to 40 degrees, got burr on first side, switched to second side, got burr, alternate sides, turn stone to use flats. I tried to get a burr on flats, but I was not able get a burr, so I made about hundred strokes, cut a piece of paper (test on the step #2), and switched to corners of fine stones. I was able to get a tiny burr, switched to second side, and got a burr, alternate strokes. It did not shave well. I turned fine stones to work on flats, I did many strokes, but it did not get any better.
The next day I started all over again but I was not able even get a burr after more than two hundred strokes on each side. Every time I sharpen this knife, I am getting worse result.
During these attempts, I removed a lot of steel and I washed stones 3 times.
It seems to me the edge is chipping, I have 7X eye loupe and I was not able see anything verify chipping. I searched forums for similar problems. It looks like nobody had a problem with S30V and Sharpmaker. I do not know what to do the next and I hate an idea send it to Spyderco.
Thank you,
Roman
I am new to knife hobby. It started about three month ago. I bought few knives, Sharpmaker, and ultra-fine hones. I watched DVD couple of times the first day I received it and sharpened couples Swiss army knives, one Zippo gent knife and Emerson Traveler AUS8 steel. All of them come out very sharp, I can shave hairs or split a peper. Later I bought BM Grip 551 with 440C and sharpened it without any problem but I had to regrind back bevel to 30 degrees and it did not take much time.
I am using Sals technique with Sharpmaker. After each step, I am testing per his instructions. In addition, I do magic marker trick when I sharpen knives first time, thanks to you people. On bladeforums, I found a lot of valuable information. I am reading forums for few hours every day.
I bought Native and could not wait for this knife to get dull to sharpen it. I expected sharpening process to be longer because of S30V blade steel and very sharp blade.
I used it for about a month I cut a few cardboard boxes, but mostly plastic bags, envelopes, some food. Than I noticed, it is not as sharp as it used to be so it is time to sharpen.
I set up my Sharpmaker on 30 degrees; put magic marker on the edge and after few strokes it is became clear that back bevel is 30 degrees. I decided to sharpen this knife at 30 degrees and than put few strokes on ultra-fine stones at 40 degrees, I read about this method on BF, and I wanted to try. It is came out OK, at least I felt this way.
The next day I demonstrated resharpen knife to my friend and I noticed that only part of edge could shave, so I decided to resharpen it again and put 40 degrees edge.
I followed instructions, put many strokes but I was not able to pass test on step 3 shave even after more than hundred strokes on the corner of fine stone.
I set up 30 degrees again and first time used technique from Joe Talmadge Sharpening FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS. It took about a hundred strokes on the grey stone to get a burr along all edge, than I change side and grind until I got a burr on second side and than I alternate from one stick to the other between strokes, and turned stones to work on flat sides. Than I reset grey stones to 40 degrees, got burr on first side, switched to second side, got burr, alternate sides, turn stone to use flats. I tried to get a burr on flats, but I was not able get a burr, so I made about hundred strokes, cut a piece of paper (test on the step #2), and switched to corners of fine stones. I was able to get a tiny burr, switched to second side, and got a burr, alternate strokes. It did not shave well. I turned fine stones to work on flats, I did many strokes, but it did not get any better.
The next day I started all over again but I was not able even get a burr after more than two hundred strokes on each side. Every time I sharpen this knife, I am getting worse result.
During these attempts, I removed a lot of steel and I washed stones 3 times.
It seems to me the edge is chipping, I have 7X eye loupe and I was not able see anything verify chipping. I searched forums for similar problems. It looks like nobody had a problem with S30V and Sharpmaker. I do not know what to do the next and I hate an idea send it to Spyderco.
Thank you,
Roman
