Problems with Axis Lock?

No flame from me, but my axis works fine and my Sebi woulden't lock up as a result of fluff from pocket! ALL mechanical devices will fail if they cannot perform an action as a result of something being in the way. Look up the reason for the word Sabotage (from French for shoe 'sabot').

While comments from people who have had trouble is welcome, I must very much agree with the problem of sending back from Europe. It is a pain in the bottom. I wish BM would send replacement springs for this blade. Still I have no compaints with my 710 in M2 (Number 247) GREAT knife!

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Ah, so you guy's say fluff and we say pocket lint.
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Seriously, I'm curious as to why the grey framelock folder from CRK didn't lockup. Where was the 'fluff' on the knife that prevented lockup? Or for clarity, how did it happen?

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Well as its you and you are a gentleman
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It was in work, in my work trousers. The pockets were full of that fluff/lint stuff as well as bits of cottun buds that had been in my pocket. Seriously it is shocking how much crap I gather in my pockets
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You know that fluff you get sometimes in your belly button? Well apparently it is caused by pile from a jumper/sweater. Well I wear a jumper more often than not, and I think the stuff drops into my pocket.

I noticed the blade did not lock up and had to rinse the blade to get it to work properly. Of course I started to worry about rust then
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I use a white teflon grease in the mech and I think this attracted the fluff. Still it has been no worse than any other oil product. Even Tuf Glide seems to attract fluff in my blades. DOH



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RKnight,
I guess I was being too rash when I proclaimed the axis lock to be the best lock on a folder. It's better to say that it's one of the best and only more time will tell if its more reliable and wear resistant than the rolling lock, monolock, and compression lock. I believe there's been enough testimony in this forum to believe that the axis lock is better than the linear lock and lockback in terms of strength, reliabilty, and wear resistance. Of course, this is only my opinion.
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Isaac, the Rolling Lock, monolock, and compression lock are all good, but they don't retain the blade in the handle the way the Axis lock does. Only a lockback does it as well--in fact, too well; the Axis is far smoother.

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SOG Arc Lock also retains blade closed position very firmly and reliably and has almost as smooth action as BM Axis Lock. It is also ambidextrous. It is slightly less obstruction resistant that Axis Lock. It also has small springs to break if you will have bad luck
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My advise would be: do not buy lock as itself, buy the knife you do like taking care for slightly more parameters than just lock or just blade steel. It is no the best lock as well as it is no the best steel, the best knife, the best gun, car etc.
Sal Glesser once said very rightly about locks, unfortunately I do not remember thread and even can't quote accurately. But the main idea was: the way lock is executed is much more important than design as itself.


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I like the SOG Arclock too. I don't feel it's as proven as the Axis lock yet, and I've heard of a few people whose Arclock knives developed a little play after using for whie, like my own did. However, assuming that's an aberration, the Arclock is a solid contender.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Sergiusz Mitin:

My advise would be: do not buy lock as itself, buy the knife you do like taking care for slightly more parameters than just lock or just blade steel. It is no the best lock as well as it is no the best steel, the best knife, the best gun, car etc.</font>
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Hmmm. I only somewhat agree with that, since you know how I feel about liner locks: I won't buy a liner lock except in a gentleman's folder. Beyond that, once you get to the point that one lock format has only a marginal advantage at best over another (say, Axis over integral lock), at that point it's definitely time to look at other factors.


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Sal Glesser once said very rightly about locks, unfortunately I do not remember thread and even can't quote accurately. But the main idea was: the way lock is executed is much more important than design as itself.</font>
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That's true, but it's also true that some lock formats are much more difficult to consistently do well. That's an important practical consideration.

 
Issac,

You were certainly not being rash nor I did intend to critisize your opinion. I was simply disagreeing and perhaps should have worded it differently. No problem guy.
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Sergiusz,

Sal Glessor has a great way of presenting a reasonable and knowledgeable point of view.

And I agree with you about the evaluating the entire knife not just one component.

Personally, I still prefer liner locks and lockbacks over newer designs. When well done they work for me. But that's just my opinion.

And I'm not trying to argue the issue. That's been done here far too many times before to do it again.
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Hi everyone,
I presume it was my broken spring which prompted Culter into starting this topic. Benchmade has sent me a new set of Omega springs for self-replacement (which is fairly easy), so lots of thanks to them for not sticking to the letter of their warranty. Sending the knife to America and back would have been a real hassle! As others have written before, the lockup with a single spring still 'felt' secure, even though the locking bar was slightly tilted to one side. A word about the knife's background: It was my daily carry for the last two years, and it has been flicked open thousands of times, I hardly ever bother to use the thumb studs. I'm still very impressed by this knife.

Take care,
Tobse !
 
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