Problems with standoffs

emerson emailed me today and said their gonna send me some new screws.

Yeah i mean i can understand the advantage of stand offs, id definitely be easier to clean if i was in the field and did something like dropped it in the mud, then if it had the regular back spacer. I do think however it makes it more difficult to disassemble in the field, as you've got more small parts to keep track off, but theres your trade off.

I think i just got a faulty model too. I've always heard emerson horror storys and never experienced any myself, i guess its just something thats bound to happen at some point.
 
Personally from an engineering point of view, the stand-offs are a much stronger design than the older back-spacer. Would you rather screw into steel or a titanium liner? I'd prefer the steel stand-off over the titanium liner with only a few threads. That said I have broken a pocket clip screw by over-torqueing. Sent it back to Emerson and they fixed it good as new. Haven't had any issues with the dozen or so stand-off versions I own. Only a few blade centering issues, which were fixed by a quick trip to EKI.
 
matt f. said:
Personally from an engineering point of view, the stand-offs are a much stronger design than the older back-spacer. Would you rather screw into steel or a titanium liner? I'd prefer the steel stand-off over the titanium liner with only a few threads. That said I have broken a pocket clip screw by over-torqueing. Sent it back to Emerson and they fixed it good as new. Haven't had any issues with the dozen or so stand-off versions I own. Only a few blade centering issues, which were fixed by a quick trip to EKI.
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I honestly don't think it matters on a folding knife. The stand offs aren't used for strength, rather for ease of cleaning and aesthetic appeal. The area between the liners in approximately .1950" the likelihood of structural failure (collapse) with a human hand is highly improbable.
 
Although I agree with you, one of the criticisms of the old back-spacer design, is that you have a steel screw screwing directly into an opposite side titanium liner. Easy to strip and could potentially sheer off the scale. Has this happened? Haven't heard of a case, but, at least, that was the criticism. With the stand-offs, you have steel screws screwing into steel. Seems like a much better design, IMO. Ease of cleaning and aesthetics are a plus, too. But I'm keeping my Emerson with Back-spacers, too. The back-spacer is "classic" Emerson.

RevDevil said:
I honestly don't think it matters on a folding knife. The stand offs aren't used for strength, rather for ease of cleaning and aesthetic appeal. The area between the liners in approximately .1950" the likelihood of structural failure (collapse) with a human hand is highly improbable.
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Just got my 2013 mini commander today. Same problem. :(
One screw just won't go into the standoff.
However I think that 2 standoffs is plenty strong enough... it's just too bad that a brand new knife has issues like these.
 
Just a thought, as I have a couple with standoffs and have had no issues. Make sure that you are NOT using one of the clip screws in a standoff or you will have this very issue.
 
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