Production knives with a chisel grind (other than Emerson)

Lapedog said:
Some of the Emerson Kershaws are in fact chisel ground. For example the CQC8k is a chisel ground knife which is overall very similar to the Emerson CQC7 tanto.

However most Emerson Kershaws are v ground.
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Yup. Almost all are v ground except the CQC-8K. In fact I think the ZT 0620 is also v ground, but I've not handled one. The only ones I'm not fully sure on are the new ones due to be released this year, you can find them on the kershaw website, I think they will be v ground.

I don't think the 8K got too popular. It's even cheaper here in AU than a 6K/7K last I looked.

Which is odd. I just got my Emerson CQC-7 wave today and I think the 8K may be the better knife, steel notwithstanding. Ergos are better, not that the CQC-7 is bad.

The 8K finish ... unfortunately puts the Emerson looking less polished.

Which I find odd. The cheaper knife with the lesser steel having just overall more finesse.

I guess from my experience, the most reasonable conclusion I can come up with, given my limited sample size, before you buy an emerson, especially the CQC-7 series, the 8K is a reasonably cheap way to see if you'll like it or hate it. And if you decide to go full Emerson, expect the fit and finish to be rougher. But still usable.

Shrug.
 
That Emerson finish will either grow on you, or it won't. I kind of like the Emerson finish to be honest.
 
Lapedog said:
That Emerson finish will either grow on you, or it won't. I kind of like the Emerson finish to be honest.
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It's fine, I agree. I'd use it. What counts is the blade seems good, the pivot seems good, I don't have any lock issues. It's just finishing issues like the liners and scales not being flush, but I agree, its cosmetic.
 
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and Cold Steel for sure

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ThePeacent said:
Spyderco
and Cold Steel for sure
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Thanks for the suggestions guys.
I wouldn't classify these ones as chisel ground per say as they have a primary grind on both sides and are just sharpened on one. Chisel ground for me is having a primary grind only on one side of the blade with the other being flat.
 
mbp said:
Going slightly off topic here, but what do you guys find particularly useful about chisel ground EDC blades, particularly Emerson's variety? I've never had the slightest interest because I don't see the utility, particularly given that I'm a righty and Emerson grinds the edge on the "wrong" side...
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The "chisel ground" blade originated in Japanese cutlery. The concept was and is to provide ease of sharpening. Once the flat side of the blade is flattened, one only has to grind the beveled side and the bevel can be placed fully against the stone to maintain the angle. Then a quick swipe of the flat side against the stone finishes the job.

The problem with the Emerson models is that they are left handed. Since most people are right handed, the Emersons are fussy for them to use. The flat side of the blade should face the user so that the cut material can move to the side with the aid of the bevel. The Emersons have the flat side facing the user only from the left hand.
 
What I don't get about a chisel grind is the need to sharpen the whole bevelnof the knife to get to the very small edge.
It seems like a blade with a secondary bevel would be much preferred in terms of edge repair and sharpening.
I have a timberline Emerson Neely
Specwar that I love its looks but am hesitant to use it since from what I understand if I have to sharpen it that the whole bevel of the knife will be scraped up.
Am I looking at it wrong?
 
JTC said:
What I don't get about a chisel grind is the need to sharpen the whole bevelnof the knife to get to the very small edge.
It seems like a blade with a secondary bevel would be much preferred in terms of edge repair and sharpening.
I have a timberline Emerson Neely
Specwar that I love its looks but am hesitant to use it since from what I understand if I have to sharpen it that the whole bevel of the knife will be scraped up.
Am I looking at it wrong?
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You could also say the same for a scandi-grind, I guess. /shrug.

Today I've got a K.E. CQC-8K in my pocket. That 8K has a secondary bevel, as I believe most, if not all Emerson designs, on the side that has the primary bevel. I guess it depends on how the knife maker grinds the blade. If there's no secondary bevel, that's just how it goes.
 
Not productions per sea but here are a couple of my 'righty' chisel ground knives. They are really awesome cutters and very easy to keep sharp. I would love to see some more/ any production folders released with a righty chisel grind.

Will try and post some pics of my chisel DDC SnG later as well.

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Well, gents I have to report in and say I'm really pleased with my Kershaw Emerson CQC-8K, being the cheapest chisel blade I have, it's also been the most used and most punished at present.

I rolled the edge on impact, by accident, on ceramic. Used self same ceramic edge to straighten it. Rough side of ceramic edge to touch it up. Only do one side then take the burr off. Stropped it up on my belt. Back to useable sharpness. Yes, tiny dint in the blade but you'd barely notice. Great beater blade. Yes, it doesn't cut as straight as a v micro bevel, but it's ok, you know, like? It works for me.

I have the Kemersons 4KXL, 5K, 6K, 8K. They're all very nice, you have to understand, I chose to buy them after much deliberation, but I think I like the 8K the best, ergos, lockup, ease of in the field sharpening - about half the work. As stated earlier.

When I kill this, I will be getting another 8K for sure, to beat on.

What of my real Emersons? For sure, I'll put them in the rotation too, but the cqc-8K is sooo cheap in relation. If I loose one or f$&9 one up, I'm not out much.
 
The Beretta Avenger is a solid and unique example of a chisel ground blade.
Its the top one in the pics.


S spykez i agree with you on the ergos of the CQC 7, just a little too boxy from me. The butt of the handle has a nice comfy dip in it but towards the front at the lockbar cut out it straightens out some.
The CQC 7 HD (framelock version ) has the curve at both ends and looks like itd be very comfortable to hold and use. They are on the pricey side though.

The Protech CQC 7 is a little slimmer so the boxyness is less prominent. Sweet knife if you want that design in an auto.
 
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