Public rape, or two uneducated men meet?

Upstream,I've got mine stuck in a lime,My knife that is,so i'll let you know in the morning if it is stainless or not.All my others are mild steel so I doubt this one is different but who knows.Toby
 
Check it in 30 minutes. It should not take all night if it is carbon. Sometimes, just wiping with mustard (vinegar) or mayo (lemon juice) or Catsup (acid) will do it. Heck, just cut up an onion and make a burger and fries!!

Codger
 
tobyrogers,

Here at BladeForums we got Bastid (Moderator of all things Goat), and we got Pirate's Cove (for Nuts, Fruits, Nekkid pitchers, and all other ilk), but I don't see no Fruit and Vegetable forum...so you are on you ownsome with that LIME...hope it comes out OK, as it were. :eek:

OK then, whose serve is it?

bill
 
Sorry Mike, it's not the first time I responded to what I "thought" somebody said. Since this knife has survived at least 33 years without a stian, I think I will just leave it be for now.
 
Ok Upstream If your blade is like mine it's not stainless.So you don't need to stain yours.Now if I can just find my Flitz I've got some polishing to do.I checked several other blades at the same time so I answered some questions I had about other blades at the same time.For sure I know I have a 153UH that is not stainless and one that is.Toby
 
Codger_64 said:
. If you have the means to accurately weigh these knives in your collections, maybe even mike the blade spines just ahead of the guards, I would be greatly interested in the results.
Codger

This H-15 weighs 5.3 oz. on my postal scale.It was still in the plastic bag when it arrived.


h154


The heaviest Schrades I have are 2 165's(Schrades)
One weighs 8.7 oz. and the other 9.0 oz.Both still show faint factory grind marks but looking at the back of the blade from the top,the heavier one may be a little thicker,starting about 2" from the hilt.
I'll put a mike on them later to see if my eyes are deceiving me.
Ron
 
Thanks. I'll run by the machine shop tomorrow and use the digital scales and calipers on my two, though they are not as easily dated as yours. This could be an interesting survey.

Codger
 
Using a good set (Brown & Sharpe) of calibrated mikes,my H-15 blade measures (against the hilt but off the brand stamp):
Bottom (choil) edge - 0.0997"
Top edge - 0.0998"

I didn't bring my calipers upstairs,but using a cheap ruler - the blade is a little over 5 & 3/16" hilt to tip.

Started measuring the 165's to see where the 0.3 oz. difference comes from but found I need the dial calipers,so that's a project for another day.
Ron
 
Just wondering,

Are the pommels the same? That might be a spot for a bit of a weight difference. It is 3/10 of an ounce right?...or did I misunderstand?:o
Or even a slightly thicker handle.

Rick, if your knife has survived that long without staining, you are the neatest/cleanest guy here...or it is probably 440A (.65-.75C, .16-.18Cr), given it's age. Or both! :D

We also know there might be newer 420HC (.40-.50C, 12-14Cr) blades. Then, of course, 1095 (.90-1.03C, nada on the Cr), which probably would show at least some patina/coloring, or pepper spots after 33 years (but maybe not yours). Anything with mild steel has less than .3%C (like 420J2) and stays shiny, but won't hold an edge very well. I'm not aware of Schrade using anything like that...maybe the faux offshore knives though.:grumpy:


Bill
 
El Lobo said:
Just wondering,

Are the pommels the same? That might be a spot for a bit of a weight difference. It is 3/10 of an ounce right?...or did I misunderstand?:o
Or even a slightly thicker handle.

Bill

Bill,
Thanks for catching that error. It was 0.3 Oz difference on the 2 165ot's that I have.As you know,the 165 doesn't have a pommel.
I've got another one coming,so we'll see what it weighs.
Codger probably has a dozen or two,plus UH's.
I'd guess that these blades are hand-ground,so it's reasonable to see a difference.

Codger
This is the postal scale that I've been using for a couple years.The battery lasts a long time.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Royal-ex5-5-Lb-...yZ109751QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
They aren't very expensive,weigh to a tenth of an ounce.
Not as good as the Pact digital that I use in handloading,but good enough for government or eBay work.
Ron
 
The 165's don't have a pommel, but they do have two different guard castings. One is noticibly thinner, and curved on the face.

Codger
 
OOOOPS,

You both got me staring intently at Ron's H-15, and the burning rubber obviously had me confusing two posts. Sigh...sorry.:o

Bill

P. S.
To save face, I'll go with Codger's theory about the quillions...er, guards. Unless a better one comes along...then I'll switch to that answer.
 
Codger_64 said:
The 165's don't have a pommel, but they do have two different guard castings. One is noticibly thinner, and curved on the face.

Codger

Face ? What's the face? Remember,some of us are still in knifegarden and haven't even made first grade!
Both of these are curved at the point your index finger contacts.
The heavier knife may have a slightly thicker hilt (a few RCH's,if you are familiar with that form of measurement),using the eyeball.Have to measure it,later.

Ron
 
There is the theory of gravitational variation whereas gravity is just stronger in some places. And some molded covers are slightly sunken on the backside as a result of the mold being too hot and not allowing a full charge of plastic in. The plastic then shrinks when it cools. And then there is the weight of material composition lost as plastic outgasses. Or martians are responsible.

Codger :D
 
Gentlemen, I'm speculating that the majority of the difference in weight between the 165OT and the H-15 is attributed to the full tang on the 165 versus the hidden tang on the H-15.
 
Codger_64 said:
There is the theory of gravitational variation whereas gravity is just stronger in some places. And some are slightly sunken on the backside as a result of being too hot.

Bill, Bill say it ain't so!! Please don't tell me that's what happened to my deltoids and ass!!
 
"There is the theory of gravitational variation whereas gravity is just stronger in some places"
Its the phase of the moon that causes gravitational variation. Just ask your wives if you dont believe me.
TTYL
Larry
:yawn:
P.S. Oh ya and sometimes they ARE the Martians.
 
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