I have a IP Eiche Wolf with the Oak handle, in 440a, A very good slicer, and a Warden with saw in the 440a stainless, it really does hold a good edge and can be sharpened very sharp, no complaints on their 440a, I use it for making traps and when ever I need to use a saw for my delicate work, I would recommend the Puma Warden with the saw, mine also has the bone handle, a nice looking piece.