Purchasing Vintage Axe - Your advice welcome

Haha, sounds like it was pretty well secure. Metal wedges make a handle that you want to save hard to remove even when the handle isn't tight - worse yet when it is. I think it would be ideal to get the wedge out first, but how that's done? Could attempt to put a screw in it so you've got something to get a hold of, or possibly drill a hole through it then run a wire through it. Best thing I've ever found to push handles out is a drift that is shaped like the eye. I kept a piece of an old axe handle and thinned it down - this way you're driving the handle straight out. Of course you've got to figure some way to hold the axe head in place while you pound on your drift. Lots of folks make a jig of sorts.
 
Thank you. The Hydraulic Jack would work great if I had means to really secure the axe above it in with the eye in line with the press. I did fine for 90% until the Jack started to really press into the haft...even with straps to one of the carpenter's table and with the hydraulic jack wrapped very tightly to the head with lifting straps (10,000lb each and absolutely no give...never attempt to jerk a car free with one of these) I simply could not get the axe to remain vertical. It would take a dedicated jig set-up and a heavy duty one at that.

I guess it goes in the Vise and come what may. Plenty of hardwood around here even if I have to turn a piece real quick on the lathe.

Oh, and your definitely right about the metal wedge being secure. Any attempt to leverage it out will split out the wood as the 2 portions of Hickory inside the eye are already a bit delicate due to be halved and thin. The good news....? After 26yrs of woodworking I long ago figured out that if it wasn't from an antique sunken Spanish Galleon then it could be replaced with a few bucks and a little effort.
 
There's a thread on here about removing and saving handles.

Here it is.......

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/875111-Remove-an-axe-head-and-reuse-the-handle

Basicly you need to whittle away some wood below the head so that you can drop the head 1/4" down the haft. Then carefully cut off the two sides of the haft that protrude above the eye while leaving the wedge intact. Grasp the wedge with a vice and pull it out. Then drive the head off the haft.

Easy peasy.
 
Nice, that sounds like a solid plan Square_peg.

Mako, If you had some needle nose vise grips you could probably just dig out enough wood (since you don't have a wood wedge in the way in this case) to get a bite of the wedge. It sounds like your handle must be pretty far down in the eye at this point? If it's far enough, and you think you have enough shoulder left, I'd probably just cut it off.
 
Gentleman, in short that haft was not coming off. I have a woodworking shop of 9 years and have been in Cabinetry since 1988. I'm new to outdoor striking tools (not using them I assure you but rather what makes a good axe a great axe) however with the shop I have nearly all the things we could hope for.

So that said, the aluminum wedge came out easily as I did remember to bevel a V into the side before installation. Using this to catch the end of a ground down pry tool the shim slid out with minimal effort. Good to go, right? ...Not. The handle felt literally glued to the inside of the eye. I suspect that when I soaked the Hickory in BLO prior to installation the liquid pushed out from compression and grafted itself to the newly cleaned up steel. Pushing and tapping with a piece of Oak I whittled to roughly the eye size got nowhere. I switched to a steel rod that I cut off a crappy tire iron and grinded down to the correct egg shape...no go! Used a straight blade dremel (not the rotary tool) to gently cut open the slot for the old shim and then ran the blade around the perimeter of the shaft hoping to break from the steel eye... I think the axe started laughing at that point.

Screw it, I'll reuse the Hickory for something needing a shorter eye (how's that for rationalization?). I cut off the shaft as close to the base of the head as possible. Even after repeatedly drilling out the remaining it was still STUBBORN. When I get the cell phone pic function to work again I'll post one up and you'll be rolling your eyes.

All righty...so enough of the bad news. I read intently all the great advice offered in this thread. I came to think squarepeg has the right idea however I just needed to think it through with the haft length versus the head weight and shape. Since this shaft I was trying to salvage had about 25-3/8" remaining I figured to loosely mount it and get a feel for that ratio. I'd invested enough time in removing the damn thing that I wasn't interested in reinventing the wheel. I just want a length with a vintage sharp Boy's Axe head that's suitable to sit in the Mud Room and be ready for the random stuff around the farm.

Soooo, I had one of the guys at the shop take the crappy lathe, I say this because it's an easy set-up but the accuracy between the arbors sucks...no detailed work allowed but we keep it plugged in, and do a quick turn down on a piece of 8/4 White Oak to 1-7/8" round. I took that blank and ran it through the table saw to get around 1/2" heavy for my width. Looked like crap but it worked. Starting at 25" I taped the "dowel" in place to get a feel for it. No swinging for fences, just seeing if the shoe fits. I dropped to 22" and then to 19". 30 minutes later I ended up close to where I started with a finish length of 24-7/8".

All I did from there was shape the end using another boy's axe handle for a template, soaked the new end in BLO and saddled the head as is. I really thought I was going to have grind and sand down the head to lose some weight but turned out to be wrong. The tool swings quite nicely. It's not strictly a 2 handed axe but can serve that way. It's also not really a single handed axe but I wouldn't hesitate to pound stakes, make some feathersticks or split even small kindling for fear of getting tired. I honestly think I've got the right marriage with these two.

I am going to clean up the head a bit but once that's done I'll post a pic or two. The overall size looks quite normal.

Anyway, that's all bygones.
 
So you wound up with a 24 -7/8 handle? Seems good to me.

Sounds like a helluva battle but I did notice you used the word "tapping" with the oak drift .... pounding and/or beating is the technique you want. :) If your drift is made of wood, you know you're doing it right when you start to destroy it. ha! I also have a wooden club that I use - I hold the axe by the handle, head down, close to the floor but suspended, then beat the living crap out of the poll, then the heel, alternating - driving the head off the handle. I've never seen a handle that wouldn't eventually give to that.
 
I have copper hammers for hitting steel. Weighted rubber hubcap hammers for hitting wood I do not want to mushroom or split.

Bill
 
There's a thread on here about removing and saving handles.

Here it is.......

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/875111-Remove-an-axe-head-and-reuse-the-handle

Basicly you need to whittle away some wood below the head so that you can drop the head 1/4" down the haft. Then carefully cut off the two sides of the haft that protrude above the eye while leaving the wedge intact. Grasp the wedge with a vice and pull it out. Then drive the head off the haft.

Easy peasy.

That's one way, I do mine a different way that works well for me.

I drill small holes angled towards the center.

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insert finishing nails into the holes

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bend the nail s to the center

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clamp the nails in the vise

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pull

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done

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Smith357,

That's some helpful stuff..much appreciated. In my case, the shim came out easily enough however the haft simply would not budge. Another posted my words with "tap"...ha! I beat the snot out of that old boy and I'm telling you...that sucker would not budge. Thinking about it again I'm confident my guess about soaking the head in BLO before and after the installation "cemented" the Hickory to the inside of the steel eye. We all know that stuff turns to sticky snot if allowed to dry and never rubbed off like you would with the handle itself.

I'm happy though, the handle eventually relented and that Boy's Double Bit Axe became a 24" version. Combine that with a Blind Horse Camp Nessmuk and my hand-me-down Wenger Swiss Army and I think old George "Nessmuk" Washington would be satisfied.

Thanks again for the advice and the pics were a great addition :thumbup:
 
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