Owen K.
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The advantage I see is "It will keeel."
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Purpose of the sharpened swedge?
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My carry load is 9+8rds of .45ACP. Nothing wrong with 9mm, but bigger holes equals more leakage. Leakage is good.
Same with a sharpened swedge, you have an asymmetrical partial dagger, that cuts both ways, tho one direction better than the other.
People live through getting stabbed all the time. I don't understand it, done right it should drop them pretty much in their tracks. But, no, most people shove the blade in and pull it right back out the same hole, leaving a puncture wound that pretty much seals itself. Thus the need to suture 6, or 16, small holes. Why does no one seem to use the edge? Does no one appreciate artistry anymore? ANY idiot can kill with the point. They do it around here almost every day, these days. And there's a LOT of people who ain't afraid of getting shot. NOBODY wants to get cut. I would rather be shot than slashed across the gut. Something about holding my innards in my arms while waiting to bleed out is just not appealing.
Same with a sharpened swedge, you have an asymmetrical partial dagger, that cuts both ways, tho one direction better than the other.
People live through getting stabbed all the time. I don't understand it, done right it should drop them pretty much in their tracks. But, no, most people shove the blade in and pull it right back out the same hole, leaving a puncture wound that pretty much seals itself. Thus the need to suture 6, or 16, small holes. Why does no one seem to use the edge? Does no one appreciate artistry anymore? ANY idiot can kill with the point. They do it around here almost every day, these days. And there's a LOT of people who ain't afraid of getting shot. NOBODY wants to get cut. I would rather be shot than slashed across the gut. Something about holding my innards in my arms while waiting to bleed out is just not appealing.
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"just the tip, i promise"
D/E knife is a weapon
S/E can be both
S/E with sharpened swedge?
Dangerous. IMO
D/E knife is a weapon
S/E can be both
S/E with sharpened swedge?
Dangerous. IMO
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Glad I don't depend on a knife for defence.
I'll take 16 rounds of 9MM "Rangers" any day!
I'll take 40 rounds of .45 "Black Talons" any day!
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I like when the swedge is sharpened to a false edge as it makes the knife pointier and
penetrating into things easier.
On knives made from a thicker stock I think a swedge sharpened to at least a false edge is almost necessary
to make the knife good at penetrating into materials. Thicker points on a knife that are also made from like .25" stock
are very tough, generally, but stabbing into things can be a pain after a while.
Even on my smallish ultratech the spine has a bit of a swedge ground into it to assist with penetration into materials.
I view the sharpened swedge as adding a lot of the benefits of a dagger to knife without actually grinding two (technically 4 if double/ v-ground) bevels into the stock.
I like my knives pointy, but I also like having a spine to press on with my thumb or forefinger for certain cuts and have to be
extra careful to remind myself not to do that if I'm using a dagger.
penetrating into things easier.
On knives made from a thicker stock I think a swedge sharpened to at least a false edge is almost necessary
to make the knife good at penetrating into materials. Thicker points on a knife that are also made from like .25" stock
are very tough, generally, but stabbing into things can be a pain after a while.
Even on my smallish ultratech the spine has a bit of a swedge ground into it to assist with penetration into materials.
I view the sharpened swedge as adding a lot of the benefits of a dagger to knife without actually grinding two (technically 4 if double/ v-ground) bevels into the stock.
I like my knives pointy, but I also like having a spine to press on with my thumb or forefinger for certain cuts and have to be
extra careful to remind myself not to do that if I'm using a dagger.
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*laughs in 12 gauge.I'll take 40 rounds of .45 "Black Talons" any day!
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*laughs in 12 gauge.
I agree! My mention of the .45 is considering it as an EDC and needing it when out and about in public. But at home or in the woods I will have my tactical 12 gauge also!
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But nothing beats carrying an 870 IWB.I agree! My mention of the .45 is considering it as an EDC and needing it when out and about in public. But at home or in the woods I will have my tactical 12 gauge also!
Kidding aside, .45’s a solid choice. In terms of recoil, I prefer it over 9mm, but the wonder nines are nice too.
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Unfortunately, I don’t have Doug Marcaida’s speed.The advantage I see is "It will keeel."
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But nothing beats carrying an 870 IWB.
Kidding aside, .45’s a solid choice. In terms of recoil, I prefer it over 9mm, but the wonder nines are nice too.
9mm's are probably why cops shoot perps to slidelock nowadays. Like the other day when two cops shot the mental black guy 14 times. I could've stopped him with one round, two at most.
That's why the .45ACP was developed! .38/.380/9mm just are not as effective. It's the lack of energy transfer to the target. Heavy and slow(relatively) beats light and fast. 9mm hardball tends towards over-penetration as well, wasting energy behind the target. Newer bullets can reduce the risk of over-penetration, but the heavy .45 slug is just better. Hell, the FBI went to 10mm, but found out their weenie recruits couldn't handle the recoil, and qualification scores dropped dramatically, thus the return to 9mm.