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Great thread! I can't wait to see the finished product.
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I ordered a hawk from Harrill a year ago. At my insistence, I paid in advance. After a couple of month's jack came back to me and said he was gonna refund my money because he had run into some unexpected problems. I said keep the money and I'd wait "as long as it takes." Little did I know. Then, a while back I emailed him saying I'd waited long enough and requested a refund. No answer. I then send 1/2 a dozen additional emails requesting a refund. No response. Then, out of the blue, I got an email from one of his sons saying Jack was away on some business...hence no response. The son said he'd refund my money...but the refund never arrived. I sent the sone several additional emails but they were unanswered. My advice to you brother it is give up on it.
Q,
I made as far as I know the first L-6 Tomahawk I know of and sent it a customer last May 08.
I never asked for any money up front and paid to ship it to him.
This guy is involved (he said) is in law enforcement.
I said look at the tomahawk if you like it send me the money if not send it back.
Well, last December 08 after no reply I finally emailed him and asked him about it.
A friend of mine told me "You know the guy might have had a car accident or something might have happened to him".
I had been hitting the website (weekly for six months) where this guy said he had seen my tomahawk.
But never seen any activity. So around December 08 I look in the directory of this website and I see postings that date from where I intially sent him the tomahawk to December 08.
One of the postings was where someone asked his opinion about watches and he mentioned that he has had a Rolex.
I'm thinking "Man, he can afford a Rolex but can't pay me or send me back the custom tomahawk that I built him?"
http://s249.photobucket.com/albums/... Final Pics/?action=view¤t=100_3462.jpg
I email him and he tells me that he "forgot" about that and then (thankfully) sent it back.
It was rusting, pitted, and had been visibly abused.
So it was a good lesson for me.
But not everyone is like that and I know this.
I have had some inquiries about L-6 tomahawks and I am going to start making them again but my first experience trying to sell one really sucked.
Here is a cut and paste of my replies to a couple of inquiries:
Will,
I am in the process of redesigning them. I will also probably only make them from L-6 tool bainite steel also along with a modern styled tanto that emulates this http://www.moderntosho.com/sale/TatsuyoshiOsaraku.htm also in L-6 bainite/martensite .
The Achilles heel of all tomahawks is where the heads are fastened (or forged) to the haft. There are makers out there that have one piece forged head/ handles but they stopped short of a full-length tang.
This is one of the areas that I plan to address along with some other issues that I plan to tackle. As a side note making implements likes these one by one gives them a uniqueness unto themselves which I personally like; none of them are the same.
Also when you look at this type of weapon it is similar to our modern day hammers and how the technology has progressed with this implement it should give some insight on what works for this type of “tool” and what doesn’t. What doesn’t work is no longer made.
So to answer your question I am still interested in this subject and have been thoroughly researching, evaluating, and designing.
When I finally have one I’ll post it.
Thanks for the interest and looking.
Robert
So, having said all the above I can feel for someone who gives a substantial amount of money (or tomahawk) and isn't kept in the line of communication with the maker or producer.
Robert
I made as far as I know the first L-6 Tomahawk I know of and sent it a customer last May 08.
I never asked for any money up front and paid to ship it to him.
This guy is involved (he said) is in law enforcement.
I said look at the tomahawk if you like it send me the money if not send it back.
Well, last December 08 after no reply I finally emailed him and asked him about it.
A friend of mine told me "You know the guy might have had a car accident or something might have happened to him".
I had been hitting the website (weekly for six months) where this guy said he had seen my tomahawk.
But never seen any activity. So around December 08 I look in the directory of this website and I see postings that date from where I intially sent him the tomahawk to December 08.
One of the postings was where someone asked his opinion about watches and he mentioned that he has had a Rolex.
I'm thinking "Man, he can afford a Rolex but can't pay me or send me back the custom tomahawk that I built him?"
http://s249.photobucket.com/albums/... Final Pics/?action=view¤t=100_3462.jpg
I email him and he tells me that he "forgot" about that and then (thankfully) sent it back.
It was rusting, pitted, and had been visibly abused.
So it was a good lesson for me.
But not everyone is like that and I know this.
I have had some inquiries about L-6 tomahawks and I am going to start making them again but my first experience trying to sell one really sucked.
Here is a cut and paste of my replies to a couple of inquiries:
Will,
I am in the process of redesigning them. I will also probably only make them from L-6 tool bainite steel also along with a modern styled tanto that emulates this http://www.moderntosho.com/sale/TatsuyoshiOsaraku.htm also in L-6 bainite/martensite .
The Achilles heel of all tomahawks is where the heads are fastened (or forged) to the haft. There are makers out there that have one piece forged head/ handles but they stopped short of a full-length tang.
This is one of the areas that I plan to address along with some other issues that I plan to tackle. As a side note making implements likes these one by one gives them a uniqueness unto themselves which I personally like; none of them are the same.
Also when you look at this type of weapon it is similar to our modern day hammers and how the technology has progressed with this implement it should give some insight on what works for this type of “tool” and what doesn’t. What doesn’t work is no longer made.
So to answer your question I am still interested in this subject and have been thoroughly researching, evaluating, and designing.
When I finally have one I’ll post it.
Thanks for the interest and looking.
Robert
So, having said all the above I can feel for someone who gives a substantial amount of money (or tomahawk) and isn't kept in the line of communication with the maker or producer.
Robert
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brethren,
not to hi-jack this thread, but I have a lot of good news after getting back from the SHOT SHOW as a guest of TOPS, which I beleive might be pertinent to this subject...;
i owe a lot of folks here tomahawks, and a lot of them are curing right now before getting skinned, so don't worry - i just am way overdue with an update and while i have your gentle attention, wanted to say "updates coming shortly."
all i can say in short, is that the new handles are really amazing (to me and the folks at SHOT at least), next week Cold Steel will be able to tell us the condition of their new hawk heads for our Handpicked Cold Steel line - if they can't make QC, we have some countermeasures plans that folks should love, we have some new stuff to offer the Investors, ...and thanks for your patience, we are not rip-off artists and we do not like to keep folks in a constant state of expectation, as we have. Saint Erica, as some folks call my wife, is a ball of nerves and is sure we are going to Hell for not being fast enough on the customs.
things are going good for the Humble Hawk Project, as TOPS has asked us to work with them for some composites-related projects, and Mr fuller, owner of TOPS has given me permission to state to the Investors that he will back us with Investors we have however he can.
Nothing settled completely yet, but Special Ops really do trust TOPS and ther is a reason why.
again, my apologies for hi-jacking the thread, but i thought i might be considered guilty by association (hawk making and all) - hope you don't mind, and if ya do, i will surley try to make it right by you.
talk to you soon. wait one.
running-around-hawking-crazily vec
not to hi-jack this thread, but I have a lot of good news after getting back from the SHOT SHOW as a guest of TOPS, which I beleive might be pertinent to this subject...;
i owe a lot of folks here tomahawks, and a lot of them are curing right now before getting skinned, so don't worry - i just am way overdue with an update and while i have your gentle attention, wanted to say "updates coming shortly."
all i can say in short, is that the new handles are really amazing (to me and the folks at SHOT at least), next week Cold Steel will be able to tell us the condition of their new hawk heads for our Handpicked Cold Steel line - if they can't make QC, we have some countermeasures plans that folks should love, we have some new stuff to offer the Investors, ...and thanks for your patience, we are not rip-off artists and we do not like to keep folks in a constant state of expectation, as we have. Saint Erica, as some folks call my wife, is a ball of nerves and is sure we are going to Hell for not being fast enough on the customs.
things are going good for the Humble Hawk Project, as TOPS has asked us to work with them for some composites-related projects, and Mr fuller, owner of TOPS has given me permission to state to the Investors that he will back us with Investors we have however he can.
Nothing settled completely yet, but Special Ops really do trust TOPS and ther is a reason why.
again, my apologies for hi-jacking the thread, but i thought i might be considered guilty by association (hawk making and all) - hope you don't mind, and if ya do, i will surley try to make it right by you.
talk to you soon. wait one.
running-around-hawking-crazily vec
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I ordered a hawk from Moosetrax forge shortly after Q ordered his. I got mine. I was
disappointed with the quality, to say the least.
There is only 1 hawk maker, custom shop that has not disappointed me; Equinox Coronado.
I understand that all small business' have problems that befall them that affect the customer. All I ask from anyone I am doing business with is communication. I am willing to wait for a couple of years if that is what it takes to get a good product AS LONG AS THERE IS COMMUNICATION. Equinox Coronado is the only one that has not let me down. I consider Vec a good friend at this point. Just don't tell him, he will take advantage of it...
disappointed with the quality, to say the least.
There is only 1 hawk maker, custom shop that has not disappointed me; Equinox Coronado.
I understand that all small business' have problems that befall them that affect the customer. All I ask from anyone I am doing business with is communication. I am willing to wait for a couple of years if that is what it takes to get a good product AS LONG AS THERE IS COMMUNICATION. Equinox Coronado is the only one that has not let me down. I consider Vec a good friend at this point. Just don't tell him, he will take advantage of it...
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that's it - you made me cry - you owe me a beer.
we are a very dinky insignificant company (Equinox Coronado) - the humble Hawk Project has only made it this far because we have made our Investors into friends - or at least they tolerate us - har!
we are just glad that folks that buy from us don't curse our name - i expect we will continue to eff things up in high order, and also make things right, hopefully equally.
guys, a lot of cool things are happening here - if we haven't squared you away yet, we will definitely make it worth the wait.
that's the Happiness Guarantee - it sucks waiting, it rawks getting though.
i got a call from TOPS this evening confirming their commitment to helping us repay the debt we have to the Investors, in the form of some neat vectorized choppers and special priviliges down the road. - of course, we are going to have to slave away for them doing our composite thingies for them, but frankly, working beside a team as honorable as that one, the TOPS TEAM, which i met in person at SHOT, is something i haven't enjoyed since my military days.
i am just humbled beyond belief at all the good people that have come out of the woodwork to help us press on, and that includes all of you guys who have given me good advice and comraderie.
we will not forget our debt to you all.
it can't be repaid adequately, but we are going to bust a gut trying.
a win-win.
...........
actually - and you are going to hate me for this, brother 'shooter - but that hawk i think you are talking about found its way to me somehow - i grinded the hell out of it and its about to resurface.
i was going to Multicam it, because i am a Multicam whore, but i thought that would be akin to robbery if i ever sold it. - for no mere mortal can resist the Multicam Goodness. :thumbup:
pretty sexy so far.
i think i am going to Cherry Heirloom it.
hey, i know - you guys wanna see some pictures...?
tomorrow's church, but i will start another thread Monday or so and leave poor Q-baby alone (sorry again, brother - sheesh.)
vec
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Vec...why don't you go start your own topic where you tell everyone how great your product is...maybe you could call it "Vec's Great Hawk" or sumptin like that...cause ya see...this topic isn't about you or your finery brother...so...yeah...quit stompin all over it, eh? Or post something to it which is on-topic. :thumbup:
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done deal.
thanks for being relatively nice about it, brother.
i heard that some hawk maker wasn't satisfying and just got a little alarmed and acted badly there, thinking it was a perfect storm, so to speak.
apologies.
vec