Quality 1x6 stones for the money

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c7m2p3

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Looking to pick up some more 1x6 stones for a guided sharpening system. Diamond, CBN, or SiC are preferred since I will need to cut some higher vanadium steel. I have looked at some of the edge pro diamond stones but the price on those seems pretty high compared to even fullsize diamond plates. Anyone have a source for some quality stones in this format that won't break the bank?
 
I have the "expensive" option you mention...but also have one double sided 1x6" Venev bonded diamond hone. Have a look at Gritomatic and see if that option works for you.
 
I should also have mentioned that many of us have used the 1"x6" Moldmaster (SiC) hones from Congress Tools in various grits, (I have 320 and 400 as I recall), for gluing to blanks for the Edge Pro or similar with Super 77. Very easy to do.
 
Blues said:
I should also have mentioned that many of us have used the 1"x6" Moldmaster (SiC) hones from Congress Tools in various grits, (I have 320 and 400 as I recall), for gluing to blanks for the Edge Pro or similar with Super 77. Very easy to do.
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Great idea I have some of the triangle moldmasters to use in the sharpmaker and have been pleased with their performance at lower grit. I will definitely look into this. Do you have a favorite spot to get edge pro blanks?
 
c7m2p3 said:
Great idea I have some of the triangle moldmasters to use in the sharpmaker and have been pleased with their performance at lower grit. I will definitely look into this. Do you have a favorite spot to get edge pro blanks?
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I've only made a handful and purchased around the same time I had picked up some other supplies from Edge Pro directly. That said, I believe Gritomatic may carry them and possibly CKTG as well. Others will be able to provide further info.

I like the flat hones mounted on the blanks much better than the quality I've seen from my Triangle moldmaster hones which are kind of rough finished, generally speaking.
 
c7m2p3 said:
Great idea I have some of the triangle moldmasters to use in the sharpmaker and have been pleased with their performance at lower grit. I will definitely look into this. Do you have a favorite spot to get edge pro blanks?
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I don't know if this suits you, but you can make your own, if you have the inclination and the tool to do it. Go to a hardware store and buy a length of 1 inch wide aluminium in whatever length you need, and cut it into 6 inch pieces and glue your moldmasters to them.
 
I have some of the 6x1 Venev OCB stones which at least where I am are quite cheap(cheaper than 2x6 size ezelap diamond plates). I would highly recommend them.
 
chalby said:
I have some of the 6x1 Venev OCB stones which at least where I am are quite cheap(cheaper than 2x6 size ezelap diamond plates). I would highly recommend them.
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Thanks, that is good to hear. Do you have the 25% or 100% diamond ones ?:thumbsup:
 
chalby said:
I have some of the 6x1 Venev OCB stones which at least where I am are quite cheap(cheaper than 2x6 size ezelap diamond plates). I would highly recommend them.
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Interesting. What grit do you have and what is the ballpark cost I should be looking at? Seeing a 3 pack at well over $100
 
cudgee said:
I don't know if this suits you, but you can make your own, if you have the inclination and the tool to do it. Go to a hardware store and buy a length of 1 inch wide aluminium in whatever length you need, and cut it into 6 inch pieces and glue your moldmasters to them.
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I would probably not be looking to make my own. Found a 5 pack of blanks going for $19 and with the tool set I have at my disposal there is a lot more headaches involved with trying to cut and shape aluminum` bar stock than paying $4 for a blank already made.
 
c7m2p3 said:
Interesting. What grit do you have and what is the ballpark cost I should be looking at? Seeing a 3 pack at well over $100
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Depends on where you are, but that sounds about right. I bought the 800/1200 stone a while back for about AUD$60-70. At the time it was going to cost me about $80 for a single grit eze lap plate(6x2) or $110 for a double sided one from memory. I just recently got the 240/400 stone for $75

Obviously there are cheaper options for stones in general, but I chose to pay a bit more money for diamond waterstones. They are what I use for my higher alloy folders if I want a more refined edge vs plate
 
c7m2p3 said:
I would probably not be looking to make my own. Found a 5 pack of blanks going for $19 and with the tool set I have at my disposal there is a lot more headaches involved with trying to cut and shape aluminum` bar stock than paying $4 for a blank already made.
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Okay. That was going to be my next suggestion, i saw a set on large bay of water for $16 last night. Glad you got your answer. :)
 
chalby said:
Depends on where you are, but that sounds about right. I bought the 800/1200 stone a while back for about AUD$60-70. At the time it was going to cost me about $80 for a single grit eze lap plate(6x2) or $110 for a double sided one from memory. I just recently got the 240/400 stone for $75

Obviously there are cheaper options for stones in general, but I chose to pay a bit more money for diamond waterstones. They are what I use for my higher alloy folders if I want a more refined edge vs plate
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Yeah perhaps I dont fully appreciate the rarity or difficulty of shaping stones into these "system friendly" set ups but right now it looks to me that KME diamond stones are going for around $25 a pop. You can get DMT 4 inch diasharp stones for $14 a pop, and you can get a set of 6 inch benchstone plates or under $100. Not sure why getting 1x6 makes the price double.
 
c7m2p3 said:
Yeah perhaps I dont fully appreciate the rarity or difficulty of shaping stones into these "system friendly" set ups but right now it looks to me that KME diamond stones are going for around $25 a pop. You can get DMT 4 inch diasharp stones for $14 a pop, and you can get a set of 6 inch benchstone plates or under $100. Not sure why getting 1x6 makes the price double.
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You're lucky it's only double. 1x6 is usually 6...so...you should, by rights, pay six times for the privilege. Duh!


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Blues said:
You're lucky it's only double. 1x6 is usually 6...so...you should, by rights, pay six times for the privilege. Duh!


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Ha I should have known!

In all seriousness I am happy to pay for quality products, I just don't want to get ripped off just because it has a certain brand written on the packaging. Quality diamond plates of much larger sizes and more various grits are available for fractions of what I am seeing 1x6 diamond stones go for which is a bit of a head scratcher if you assume at least part of the price is set by the size of the product and the amount of abrasives needed to fill a full size benchstone vs something just one inch wide and 6 inches long.
 
I'm going to let others field this because most of the answers that I'm tempted to post would cause me to issue myself infractions for wiseassery.

I will say that there is more to it than size alone...including the quality of the materials, where it is made and by whom, and the strictness of the tolerances.

Others will provide more, I'm sure.
 
Then what is your solution. Get ripped off with much less quality stones? Doesn’t make sense to me. Just saying.
 
BWYO said:
Then what is your solution. Get ripped off with much less quality stones? Doesn’t make sense to me. Just saying.
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I don't think it's a matter of getting ripped off. (Though one can be, I suppose, if they were not inclined to do their homework.)

But the matter is one of degree, largely. In bench stones, you can accomplish much the same result with Ultra Sharp, DMT and Atoma, by way of example...but the quality of the stone, durability, level of finish and the efficiency may vary from one to the other.

With the smaller stones for the sharpening rigs, you will definitely pay more for "boutique" hones, (bonded diamond, Shapton Glass and the like), which are cut and sized to fit those systems and come from high end sources...large or small. In a few instances, you can get more pedestrian prices...such as with various plated diamond or SiC / AlOx hones of the proper dimensions.

Just depends on wants, needs, and budget. There are many roads to Dublin as a wise man I know likes to say.

It's not simply one or the other. The answers are more nuanced.
 
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