Queen amber bone trapper vs case chestnut bone trapper

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daedge804

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The case chestnut bone trapper comes with a chrome vanadium blade and the queen amber bone comes with a D2 blade.Which blade steel is better? which is sharper out of the box? I've heard that queen cutlery knvies are dull out of the box,is this true?
 
Those are both nice choices. IMO properly heat treated D2 is a better steel than Case CV. That said, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the Case CV steel...

The D2 is going to take a little more effort to sharpen, and works easier with diamond stones. The CV is really easy to keep a great edge on, and sharpens easily with regular stones.

The general report is that most of the Queen D2 knives, don't have the best edge from the factory.

I don't think you would go wrong with either choice.
 
They are both really nice knives.

The D2 Queen uses is a bear to sharpen, in my experience, and they have to have considerable reprofiling before they suit me.

I would rather touch up the CV a little more often than deal with D2 in a slipjoint.

Also, I love the patina that CV aquires over time.

For those personal reasons, I prefer the Case.
 
If you are good at sharpening/re-profiling, a Queen will be a great knife.
if you want a knife to use right out of the box, get the Case. that said, all my new Case knives have had a slight burr along 1 edge, but this is easy to remove with a few light passes on a medium or fine stone.
roland
 
338375 said:
Those are both nice choices. IMO properly heat treated D2 is a better steel than Case CV. That said, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the Case CV steel...

The D2 is going to take a little more effort to sharpen, and works easier with diamond stones. The CV is really easy to keep a great edge on, and sharpens easily with regular stones.

The general report is that most of the Queen D2 knives, don't have the best edge from the factory.

I don't think you would go wrong with either choice.
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Mike said it right, imho. :thumbup: (And Roland's right about the burrs on Case knives. I've noticed that pretty consistently as well.)

Both are excellent steels. CV gets wicked sharp and holds an edge reasonably well.

D2 will get sharp as you please (with some effort on your part) and hold it for a long time.

I have many knives in both CV and D2 and love 'em both. No reason to restrict yourself to only one (over time). Sharpening can be every bit as fulfilling as collecting and using your knives. :cool:
 
They hit it right on the head above. Queens do come dull in my opinion but that D2 steel can get really sharp with diamond stones and hold that edge for a super long time while the Case will come sharper, hold an edge good, and attain that magical patina.

One thing I might add, and this may upset some, but I have to say that generally the F&F and quality control is better on Case. Then again, that amber bone on the Queen is stunning in real life. Bottom line, you can't go wrong with either. I have both and carry both.
 
When in doubt, I go with Case.

Better edge out of the box, and for some reason Case seems to feel a bit better in hand. I don't know if it's just the edges of the handles are radiused a bit different, or what. And I can touch up the Case on the nearest coffee mug or boot top. To me anyways, the Queens feel a bit heavy and clubby. A kind of chunky feel that I don't know if I really like. It's all a matter of taste.

Ford vs Chevy.:confused:

Unless you like Dodge's.:D
 
If your not into sharpening a knife as soon as you get it shy away from Queen.I have 2 Queen Stockmans,when I got them they were both butter knife dull.Do I like them?the answer is yes,after I reprofiled the edges,they hold an edge for a long time and are'nt hard to touch up on a sharpmaker.I use diamond benchstones for all my reprofiling work.
 
804; the real answer, which most of us know, but no-one has yet said: get them both. de-burr the Case (5 minutes) and into the pocket it goes.
work on the Queen blades 'til you get them sharp as you can (a few+ hours work, but done at your leisure). then alternate carrying. this way you will not be missing out on anything !
Happy New Year. Get them Both. i'm sure you Deserve it !
roland
 
daedge804 said:
The case chestnut bone trapper comes with a chrome vanadium blade and the queen amber bone comes with a D2 blade.
- Which blade steel is better?
- which is sharper out of the box?
- I've heard that queen cutlery knvies are dull out of the box,is this true?
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- last point first. I have 4 Queens. All of them needed work on the edges.
- Case is sharper OOB.
- Neither steel is better. But they are different.
D2 is significantly harder to sharpen, but holds an edge a lot longer.
I can get a sharper edge on CV than I can on D2. You get to choose which set of properties you like.
 
jackknife said:
When in doubt, I go with Case.

Better edge out of the box, and for some reason Case seems to feel a bit better in hand. I don't know if it's just the edges of the handles are radiused a bit different, or what. And I can touch up the Case on the nearest coffee mug or boot top. To me anyways, the Queens feel a bit heavy and clubby. A kind of chunky feel that I don't know if I really like. It's all a matter of taste.

Ford vs Chevy.:confused:

Unless you like Dodge's.:D
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When in doubt...get BOTH!
 
knarfeng said:
- - Neither steel is better. But they are different.
D2 is significantly harder to sharpen, but holds an edge a lot longer.
I can get a sharper edge on CV than I can on D2. You get to choose which set of properties you like.
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This is my experience to.

Bosse
 
No arguments here. I guess if I was forced to choose one I would say the D2, but not by much.

I really like the D2 that Queen uses, but then sharpening has never been a chore to me, I enjoy it as a nice relaxation and fondling exercise, so putting a good edge on the D2 hasn't bothered me. But that said, it does take a fair amount of work. I do get a perfectly sharp edge on it though, every bit as sharp as the CV, and it stays that way alot longer and through heavier cutting.

CV is much easier to sharpen. From dead dull to razor sharp only takes a couple of minutes if I'm in a hurry. An hour or so over coffee and chatting with my wife :D.

Just depends on what you are looking for, but if you haven't tried it yet, I'ld strongly suggest giving the D2 a try.

Syn
 
I have a Canal Street Trapper in D2, and several Case knives in CV. I'll echo everyone's sentiments on D2 & Case CV; I'm partial to Case's CV myself. The D2 is nice, and if I remember correctly, it has some stain-resistant qualities to it. For me, I'd rather have a nice patina'd CV blade any day. :cool:

(Queen & others are on my list to get in the next year or so. These kinds of threads are very informative.)

thx - cpr
 
D2 does patina to a dull grey.

I have not found a way to force a patina on D2, it just takes time.
I also find the polished D2 (not the satin finish) takes a patina faster.

I use the DMT Aligner jig with diamond stones to sharpen D2
I find it very easy and I have a ritual when I get a Queen in D2 that I will be spending 1/2 hour on the jig.
BUT...
If I did not have the jig with diamond stone, I would find sharpening D2 not easy.
 
Coonskinner said:
They are both really nice knives.

The D2 Queen uses is a bear to sharpen, in my experience, and they have to have considerable reprofiling before they suit me.

I would rather touch up the CV a little more often than deal with D2 in a slipjoint.
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I also have each and ditto. I would say that I like each depending on what I will be using them for . The D2 does seem to hold the edge better and work better on harder tasks.
 
annr said:
I also have each and ditto. I would say that I like each depending on what I will be using them for . The D2 does seem to hold the edge better and work better on harder tasks.
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Agreed.

When I need a knife for a "harder task," I usually go with something besides a slippie.

Thus my preference for a steel that will take a scary sharp edge relatively easily over more of a workhorse steel like D2.
 
It also depends on which pattern you like. Case's options in CV with bone handles are a bit limited. Queen makes about 23 patterns in D2 with bone handles and maybe 28 in the birdseye maple.

As far as fit and finish, everyone views that differently as to what constitutes good fit and finish. Case knives will be shinier and have a higher polish. Case knives use flat bolsters that are stamped out of sheets of nickel silver, so overall the knives are hafted flatter. Queen uses old style bolsters that are coined as a half round shape. Queen hafts the handle to follow this shape so on a Queen knife the handle is thicker in the center but tapers off nicely toward the edges to match the bolster contour. This is how Case knives used to be made up to the early 80's.
 
I think the fit and finish are good on both brands, but I prefer the look of Queen's bone and I prefer D2. However, I think either one would be a good choice. You can't go wrong on this one.
 
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