Queen D2 Canoe

Sorry, Queen makes the Cattle King, I think King Ranch is an Old Timer model, either that or Uncle Henry, just got language wrong but you knew what I meant:) Love my amber bone Case CV stockman (people are always whining about Case QC, I just must be lucky with them:)) Hopefully I'll have the same "luck" with Queen, it is one of my grandad favorite brands, I am just slow to branch out from Case. BTW I still like the Jigged Cherry better than Winter, BUT I did see a higher res pic and it does look a LOT better than I originally thought:) Canoes, and Great BIG Stockmans rule, SAKS drool, think that may be my new motto ;)
 
Any excuse to put up this picture ;)

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I polished the etch off of my Canoe.
Sheesh...put a picture of a dog or something on there and maybe I'll like it...but the model number?!
Sheesh.

It's a great little knife, isn't it?
I only had staining problems twice both times in hot humid weather on days that had a lot of activity. Camping and the latest blackout.
All of the color came off when I de-etched the blade. Nothing more than some tarnish and 3 tiny pepper spots, anyway.
I should have checked the knife sooner and didn't. I do now and don't have any problems.

Keep at that mousepad and it'll be the new cardboard king. I use a Olfa snap-off knife at work. Always fresh blades, we buy them by the hundred. Today I used the Canoe to cut some brown kraft/shipping paper and thought:
"Wow, that felt just like the Olfa blade :)"
 
Ebbtide said:
Any excuse to put up this picture ;)

d2axwoodcanoe.jpg



I polished the etch off of my Canoe.
Sheesh...put a picture of a dog or something on there and maybe I'll like it...but the model number?!
Sheesh.
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It always looks great with your combos. I polished the etch off too. This morning I used the small blade and noticed a few pepper spots. I've only carried this thing for 3 days... I did oil it, but my mirror finish doesn't hold the oil. I guess as long as it doesn't turn orange/red, it's just _character_.

Ebbtide said:
It's a great little knife, isn't it?
I only had staining problems twice both times in hot humid weather on days that had a lot of activity. Camping and the latest blackout.
All of the color came off when I de-etched the blade. Nothing more than some tarnish and 3 tiny pepper spots, anyway.
I should have checked the knife sooner and didn't. I do now and don't have any problems.
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Ebbtide said:
Keep at that mousepad and it'll be the new cardboard king. I use a Olfa snap-off knife at work. Always fresh blades, we buy them by the hundred. Today I used the Canoe to cut some brown kraft/shipping paper and thought:
"Wow, that felt just like the Olfa blade :)"
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Yeah, the small blade is thin already. Even though they are both convexed, the main blade could be thinned out a little more ... when I have more time.
 
Be ready for a war thinning out that main blade. Queen stuff's great, but it's a bear to work with. Heck, I've a One-Arm trapper I've been working on on and off for a while, and I just barely have the razor where I want it. Convexing will come later. :)
 
Sword and Shield said:
Be ready for a war thinning out that main blade. Queen stuff's great, but it's a bear to work with. Heck, I've a One-Arm trapper I've been working on on and off for a while, and I just barely have the razor where I want it. Convexing will come later. :)
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I already thinned the edge to 15 per side with diamond stones and then convexed with the very edge ending up at around 20 per side.

I'm pretty sure I can go thinner, it will be like convexing smoothly from the flat to the edge. (I think the flat face of the blade is around 10 degrees or so). At this point, you can still tell where the convex begins, but I think I could push it a little further.
 
Yup, that's an 52100 Marbles. I won it for designing the Knifeforums logo (that they no longer use :grumpy: )
The hatchet is from MS PJ Tomes, cast D2 haven't used it yet. It's been a long winter for me.

The Canoe has such a thin blade, I don't think that you have to thin it out as much as knock the shoulder off the bevel and polish the edge. I started with 220 paper and worked up to 2000. Now I just strop it...I have a leather strop with some red compound that the previous owner of my house left in the garage.
I don't know how long it took, I'd work on it a little each night till I got bored.

I consider the convex edge work, a work in progress. As long as it cuts, it's good and with more work it'll get better and that's good too.

Thanx for the nice words on the photo, it was a bit of work and I'm proud of it :D
 
Ebbtide said:
Yup, that's an 52100 Marbles. I won it for designing the Knifeforums logo (that they no longer use :grumpy: )
The hatchet is from MS PJ Tomes, cast D2
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Beauty, eh? I had a 52100 Trailmaster. Took it to Canada on a fishing trip, and noticed that it rusted real easy. I thought, "Who needs a knife that rusts this easy?" Took it to a knife-dealer who eagerly traded it for another knife that I thought I needed. Two weeks later I find out they quit making 'em out of 52100. What a mistake. I've yet to find a knife that took an edge like that one. Life goes on.

Bill
 
I liked that Woodcraft so much, I bought a mini woodcraft and a woodcraft2 (thin blade)
They are out there, some for close to original prices. I got the mini and thin from thecuttingedge.com and paid around a buck and a quarter for both :D
They *all* get that scarey sharp edge :D
 
Ebbtide said:
I liked that Woodcraft so much, I bought a mini woodcraft
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That's what it was, a Woodcraft. Doggone alzhiemers kicking in again. Anyway mine was the stacked leather handle. Not as pretty as yours, but a real keen edge, non the less.

Bill
 
I have the cherry delrin version and it's great. The only issue in my eyes was that it came dull as a butter knife. After about 2.5 hours of sharpening, it shaved, and still does many months later. D2 is a great steel when ground/sharpened well.
Matt
 
OOB sharpness is overrated. When I was a kid (I'm 48) all the pocket knives I bought were just above butterknife sharp, I think you were expected to put your own edge on it. Thin for whittling and thick for tougher jobs, etc.
 
Ebbtide said:
OOB sharpness is overrated. When I was a kid (I'm 48) all the pocket knives I bought were just above butterknife sharp, I think you were expected to put your own edge on it. Thin for whittling and thick for tougher jobs, etc.
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The only knives I have _ever_ had that were "acceptable" OOB were spydercos. But I even sharpen them before carrying...I am big on controlling the performance of my knives.
 
I'll have to secnond that on the Spyderco having the only consistently good OOB sharpness. However, Benchmade is getting better, the last two I bought were razor sharp OOB, I was surprised bc they usually have terrible OOB edges for such a high priced knife. I sometimes think it may be a liability issue being the reason for most Co's pitiful edges. Ever notice how Buck (probably the top selling brand) and although they make great knives I've never seen one with a good OOB edge, might be afraid some moron migh accidently maim themselves and try to sue, just a thought:) One the other hand knives know to have great OOB edges: Spyderco, Cold Steel, Chris Reeve, and even sometimes Benchmade are more knives used by those that actually buy theirs from somewhere other than Wal-Mart.
 
Spydiefan04 said:
Queen Congress in Cocobolo also looks awesome any pros/cons on it vs. Canoe. I'm very familiar w/Canoe style and know it would be thinner in pocket, but I've never had a Congress style (reminds me of a wood handled Buck Creek my Grandad carried for ages) think I may try it instead, any ideas?
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I have a Queen Large Congress with D2/ Cocoblo that I probably use more than any other knife I own or edc. I like it so much that I bought a spare. :D It cuts like crazy and I find that the large sheepsfoot blade is extremely handy. Fit and finish are very good but not perfect with a couple of very sharp corners right out of the box. I have been carrying it for maybe 6 months now, and the blades have picked up a a few minor stains, but no worse than I have had ATS34 do. I used to carry a Case Canoe, but I find that the curved handle of the Congress makes for a more comfortable knife (YMMV) for heavy cutting.

Danny
 
I actualy prefer a fairly dull edge on new knives, because it takes a while to get used to opening and closing them, and strange dogs are a lot more likely to bite you than a dog you have had for years.
 
>" Ever notice how Buck (probably the top selling brand) and although they make great knives I've never seen one with a good OOB edge ..."

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When's the last time you bought a new Buck? Have you bought one since they've implemented the Edge2x Technology? I've sent in three Bucks to have this new edge put on 'em and I've been damn impressed with every one.
 
My last two Bucks (532 with BG-42 and a Buck Mayo) both came from the factory with clean shaving edges. I was impressed. The E2X (or E2K as originally named) really puts a fine edge on them.

As for the Queen canoe, it has a very thick main blade, especially for a knife its size. I finally convexed mine, which took a couple of sessions with sand paper. But the shoulders are knocked off now.
 
I recently bought a BUCK 880SP it was Sharp OOB but not shaving like a Spyderco or Cold Steel. Also I have seen many non semi-custom or high end Bucks with very crappy edges, BUT I have to admit that their collaboration/higher end knives do have good oob edges.
 
I just got one in JBC. That's really nice Delrin by the way. I was surprised at how THICK it is. I have the two-blade congress, which is a nice knife, but unlike the Queen website, which said 3.5", it's a solid 4". With the square bolsters, it's a pocketful.

The Canoe has a staggeringly thick main blade (to me). Makes the wharny on a Seahorse look puny by comparison. Mine came decently sharp, although I imagine most of you would hate the edge geometry. Did I mention that it's THICK? :p

A real good pocket package except a tad bit heavy for carry in lighter pants pockets.
 
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