Queen fit and finish??

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sir woodley

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Hello all. I think I'm about to pull the trigger on my first Queen folder in D2. I'm a little nervuse because I've read lots of negative remarks about buyer satisfaction. I'm not worried about blade grinds, profiles, etc. I have good diamond stones and have worked with D2 before. I guess what I'm getting at is, I know I can get the blade to my satisfaction, but will I be happy with the fit and finish? Good sturdy knife, no blade wobble, good and tight when in opened position? Bottom line is, Wife is gonna have a fit when she realizes I orderd another knife! I WANT IT TO BE WORTH IT!! :thumbup: Thnx, M
 
Queen Cultery in D2, I find the overall F&F to be very good.
Well worth the money.

Expect to rebevel from the factory grind, from extra-course to extra-fine.
But well worth the effort.
A sharp knife that stays sharp.
Don't let it loose it edge.

Good well made knives, users ,
 
I have 2 that aren't real recent,I think both of those are nice,tight knives,work good.I'll give them a:thumbup:
 
I have one Queen - a honey amber bone gunstock. The fit and finish is excellent, but the edge bevels were uneven. Nothing that some time with a DMT stone couldn't improve.
 
All of the Queen knives I've got (quite a few, actually) are very good in F&F as well as basic construction. My only complaints have been dull blades, which I don't mind so much on carbon, stainless, etc, but can cause undue work on my part if it involves reprofiling D2.

-- Sam
 
I´m sorry, but my experiences have been pretty bad. With the two Mountain Men I got, fit & finish wasn´t that bad ... excepting that both of them showed a lot of bladeplay, and that was with pieces that were supossed to hav been handpicked.
Anyway, that was almost five years ago, and maybe Queen QC has been improved. Hope you will be lucky.
Regards.
 
Sevilla - The mountain man is the one Queen pattern that has common problems with blade play. I have seen two (and own one) and both had some blade play. I knew that it was a distinct possibility before I bought it, so at least it wasn't a surprise.

Of all the other Queen D2 knives that I have bought or handled (three different #9 stockman, two different #26 stockman, two different copperheads, one gunstock, and one large two-bladed folding hunter), only one had any blade play. On one of the #9 stockmans, the sheepsfoot blade shows a good amount of play when closed, but when open it is hardly noticeable. So don't judge the entire Queen line by your experience with the Mountain Man, since that model is not representative of Queen quality in general. Normally the only issue is the obtuse edge they come with, which requires reprofiling.
 
Have a Queen/Dan Burke with great fit/finish. Scale cracked and I called Queen. CS said to send it in. Seven days later a brand new one arrived. Great knives and great customer service...
 
Excluding my Moore Maker, I have had two Queens. A Mountain Man in 1095 was beautiful and solid in every way except for blade play when locked. Sent it back for the afore mentioned Moore Maker (not worth the money). My latest Queen is a Classic Canoe in 1095. F&F are top notch! I am very please with this knife.


tjg
 
lambertiana said:
Sevilla - The mountain man is the one Queen pattern that has common problems with blade play. I have seen two (and own one) and both had some blade play. I knew that it was a distinct possibility before I bought it, so at least it wasn't a surprise.

Of all the other Queen D2 knives that I have bought or handled (three different #9 stockman, two different #26 stockman, two different copperheads, one gunstock, and one large two-bladed folding hunter), only one had any blade play. On one of the #9 stockmans, the sheepsfoot blade shows a good amount of play when closed, but when open it is hardly noticeable. So don't judge the entire Queen line by your experience with the Mountain Man, since that model is not representative of Queen quality in general. Normally the only issue is the obtuse edge they come with, which requires reprofiling.
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I´m not judging, but sharing my experiences, lambertiana. I know for sure that Queen knives can´t be that bad when so many clever 'aficionados' say good things about them. But it doesn´t stop me from having bad vibrations about the brand.
Let me explain: I live in Spain, where postal shipping of cutlery is strictly banned, so bringing knives from US is hard and expensive. But I was completely 'in love' with the pattern, 'cause it had everything I wanted - lockback, stag, D2 or 1095, beauty and tradition- so I took advantage of an American friend that went holydays in summer and ordered my first MM to a vendor who supposedly handpick some folder if you ask specifically for it, as I did when I told him my special circumstances. Big disappointment when I received it and bladeplay was even noisy. I didn´t give up, thinking that everybody can fail, so I sold the MM to a coworker and, six months later and with that same friend, I asked for one MM else, explaining what had happened, and asking -almost begging- an item with the minimum bladeplay, without minding if it was D2 or 1095, stag or bone.
I was lucky: the new one made no noise, but in fact the bladeplay was there, both vertical and side-to-side, much more noticeable than a cheap Chinese knock-off.
Again, lambertiana, I´m not judging, I have no right, neither knowledge to do it. But I won´t buy a Queen knife in the future.
Anyway, I´m very glad you have and enjoy your Queens.
Thanks, and sorry for my poor English.
 
My experiences have been varied. 2 Teardop Liner locks (both more or less blunt but let's forget that...)1 in Amber Bone has now become a very valued knife,although the liner makes a rather fragile sounding click on engaging.You have to be careful how you close it as spring is quite fierce and it could damage the blade.Nice thin blade which now sharp, is much used. Excellent scales and appearance. The other Teardop in Bird's Eye Maple is not good-it too has a fierce return and arrived (also from a "hand picked" source interestingly....) with a nasty tooth effect on the edge,the shield was not properly mounted and sticks out,has glue smears and the nail nick is so deep it is very difficult to open it. A CSB Utility knife in D2 I have is fine and came sharp(must have slipped through...)I did file the kick out of choice as it was tearing the pocket a bit but this is a knife I'm keen on.As for Queen cutlery's other division Schatt&Morgan I am very disappointed with the quality of the 2 I have,blade wobble,big gaps etc that I'm put off them. I have had no problems with CASE or the Great Easterns I own(a brand which I think is really developing) so my experience makes me say caveat emptor, Queen Cutlery can (and clearly did in the past)make an excellent knife but consistency does seem to be debatable. Try to handle the knife before buying if at all possible.
 
I have 'quite a few' Queen knives.

All of them are good, well within the acceptable variation of a production knife.
All the blades fit well, and some of them sharp!
No blade rub on any of the knives.
Only one had a slightly loose boster.
In a wooden handled knife, the shield is set too deeply.

I cannot try before I buy, as I am a distance from the sources.
I ask Bill at Cumberland to check the knife before sending.
That one of the reasons why I use him.
 
neeman said:
I have 'quite a few' Queen knives.

All of them are good, well within the acceptable variation of a production knife.
All the blades fit well, and some of them sharp!
No blade rub on any of the knives.
Only one had a slightly loose boster.
In a wooden handled knife, the shield is set too deeply.

I cannot try before I buy, as I am a distance from the sources.
I ask Bill at Cumberland to check the knife before sending.
That one of the reasons why I use him.
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That´s where I got my two "hand picked" Mountain Men.
 
I got my Mountain man in 1095 with stag from Bill at Cumerland too, locks up nice and tight, no play at all. Still I can pinch the blade with my thumb and middle finger and open the blade one handed.
 
Here is a pic of a liner lock Queen in D2 that I got Tom Krein to put a regrind on. AWESOME cutter! Fit and finish=excellent!
 

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Nice Wali and thanks to all of ya'll. I ended up pulling the trigger on an Amber Bone Copperhead. Luvin' it! Great fit and finish, etc. Edge sucked but I fixed that with a few visits to my DMT Diamond stones. I've been EDC'n it for about 5 days now. I've used it for many diff. tasks. Actually used it to cook a big breakfast this morning. Cut up some deer sausage, some fruits and a ton of vegitables! (I use food grade minn. oil on my knives.) Anyway, "VERY PLEASED!!" (better have those diamond stones and a bit of patiance ready.) Thnx again, M
 
hey woodley, how do you like the size? any pics to show comparison to any other knives?
 
neeman said:
I find the overall F&F to be very good.
Well worth the money.

Expect to rebevel from the factory grind ...
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Somehow this just doesn't seem to compute. F&F = fit and finish, right? Seems like Queen's leaving it up to the customer to finish the "finish" part of that equation. :confused:
 
mnblade said:
Somehow this just doesn't seem to compute. F&F = fit and finish, right? Seems like Queen's leaving it up to the customer to finish the "finish" part of that equation. :confused:
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Many of us rebevel factory edges, no matter how sharp they arrive. I like extremely thin edges, around 13 degrees. I may add a secondary bevel, or with D2 I may leave my primary bevel the way it is. Since we rebevel and resharpen anyway, the factory edge is not a big part of the equation.

When I consider factory F&F, I look more to mechanical function, fitting of stag or bone to metal, alignment of scales and blades, and so forth. Once I rebevel, the edge is the way I want it and factory bevel is not really an issue. On the other hand, once I rebevel, F&F problems other than factory edge would still exit, and that would be a big issue for me.

I'm not just a user, but an enhancer and then a user. I enjoy tweeking more performance out of my knives.
 
crbauhs, Sorry no camera here for pix. (spend all my extra money on knives.) I do find it to be just the right size for "me" to EDC in front pocket. Appears to be right at 3 3/4" closed. O/A blade length 2 3/4". Cutting edge 2 1/2". It measures 1/8" longer than my Case Sodbuster Jr. Width is 1/2". I'm really enjoying this knife! Oh, well said RobbW. Thanks,M
 
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