Queen me, or, Neeman was right.

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Sherman, set the wayback machine for Dec 5, 2008. (points if you ID the source of the pseudo quote. The format of the thread title comes from almost the same source, now that I think on it.)
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=602232

I was asking advice about the difference between the Queen Cattle King and the Queen 4" stockman. I asked if the that quarter of an inch was significant. Neeman responded that it was. I did buy a Cattle King in amber bone.

So I've carried and enjoyed the Cattle King for a year, and I have decided that sometimes it is a bit big for the pocket of my jeans. (Why Yes, I am happy to see you, but that's actually my Cattle King.) So this year I got a Queen 4" Stockman in Amber Bone with the D2 blades. Mike Lathan fired one off to me in a most timely fashion. It arrived today, and while I don't actually get to have it until after the birthday dinner this evening (57, thank you), I did handle it just a tad before letting the wife wrap it. I even managed to snag a couple of photos outside while it was light.

It came quite sharp (for a Queen) and if I just wanted to display it, it would be fine as is in that department. But I will fuss with the edge until it is the way I want it to be. One of the things I did this year was learn to put a decent edge on Queen D2. I do love a challenge. And I think I've got it down, now.

The fit and finish is excellent. I have one a Queen with Delrin scales and several now with the amber bone. The F&F on the amber bone models are superior to that of the Delrin. I do very much like the amber stag-bone scales. The ones on the new stockman are just as nice as those on the Cattle King. And it is significantly smaller. It will be easier to carry. I tried it for a few minutes and it actually feels smaller in the pocket than my Buck 301, and a lot smaller than my Cold Steel stockman. The Cold Steel and the Buck are the same length, but are a bit more angular. The Cold Steel stockman feels almost as heavy as the Cattle King. The rounded bolsters make the Queen 4" a bit more pocket friendly.

It will be a few days before the new one is really ready for me to carry. It will take me that long to find time to get it sharpened the way I like it.


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Mr. Peabody of course!

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Yep, that 1/4" is significant. 3 7/8" to 4" (for me) is a great EDC size for most occasions. But I like being able to adjust up or down as the occasion warrants. (3.5" to 4 3/8")
 
Happy birthday. That amber bone is beautiful. I've got one in bird's eye maple, but I think yours looks better.

BTW, I'm still trying to get mine sharpened.
 
...and speaking of the classic shows from that era, I wonder if Queen utilizes upsidaisium in its D2 mix? (Inquiring minds want to know...;))
 
Happy birthday. That amber bone is beautiful. I've got one in bird's eye maple, but I think yours looks better.

BTW, I'm still trying to get mine sharpened.

I set the edge angle with DMT extra coarse. Then I use the DMT coarse, fine, and extra fine. Then I use a Sharpmaker. There's a lot to be said for Carbon steel blades (as opposed to D2) but I once I get it sharpened up, it's good to go for quite a spell, after which I find the Sharpmaker adequate for resharpening.
 
Mr. Peabody of course!

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The title has the same format as the the Rocky and Bullwinkle episode-ettes. At the end of each one, the announcer, William Conrad, would say, "tune in next time for as our heros get away again in the "getting away again, or, the sticky pin."

How many of you folks knew that was William Conrad, who later played "Frank Canon" on the TV show "Canon"?
 
The title has the same format as the the Rocky and Bullwinkle episode-ettes. At the end of each one, the announcer, William Conrad, would say, "tune in next time for as our heros get away again in the "getting away again, or, the sticky pin."

How many of you folks knew that was William Conrad, who later played "Frank Canon" on the TV show "Canon"?

Gee, I always thought it was Marshall Dillon from the Gunsmoke radio show that did the announcing.;)
 
Hi,

Happy Birthday! That amber bone looks fantastic on those Queens. You do realize you need the small Queen stockman, (3 1/4"), now to complete the set.

dalee
 
Smooth pulls.

I've not seen a small Queen Stockman in the amber bone. Do they make one?
 
The cattle king does look noticeably bigger than you new knife. I think it has to do with the width more than anything.
 
I don't have the Queen Cattle King, but something close enough for a comparison, a Case 75. Against my Queen 9, which looks virtually identical to the one in the first post, the difference in bulk and weight is substantial. The smaller slimmer 4" stockman is MUCH more pocketable. The difference in size doesn't seem that much on paper being "only" a quarter inch, but a quarter inch in the scale of knife sizing is tremendous. The difference between a 4'' knife and a 3-3/4'' is again a large size change when the knives are beside each other. The scale of things changes quickly in comparison to a small amount in measurements of length.

Think about how small a 3-1/2'' knife looks, beside a 4-1/4'' version; scaled up proportionatly, the difference is vastly greater than the mere 3/4'' in length would convey just looking at the figures in a catalog. That's why I hate buying knives without being there to actually see them and have them in hand. Sometimes you get really disappointed when they arrive, not only from unseen cosmetic issues and such, they just aren't "right" when they are in your real live hands. Almost borders on the intangible. Nothing like being there.
 
Happy birthday, Frank. From those pictures, it certainly looks like that 4" stockman is considerably smaller than the Cattle King. Looks like it'll make for quite a nice user, once you get that edge setup, that is. I'm still putting that Rough Cut Stockman through the ropes, fussing with the edge here and there, but it's been wonderful for work.
 
Happy B-day and congrats on your new Queen....

Every time I see a Queen with those scales, I ask myself why I haven't got one?
I don't usually make a habit of taking to myself though :D
Same thing goes for the Moore Makers in smooth yellow bone.

I can definitely see where the smaller one with rounded bolsters would be a little easier in pocket. I guess its really not to far off from a 47 series Case..

There is just something substantial feeling though about a Cattle King, or Case 75. Maybe its because I have big hands.
 
frank most new guys are really struggling trying to sharpen queens d2. thanks for tipping them. luckily i have power tools to ininiate the process before progressing to the dmt diamond sequence. novices without diamonds are probably going to give up.[mailing yours today]
 
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