Question about anvils....

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So far, I've made a few stock-removal knives but as I'm waiting on my Tax return, I've been doing a little window shopping for blacksmith tools as I hope to start learning how to forge this spring/summer. One thing I've noticed is that there seems to be a pretty wide margin of face hardness on new anvils. Some as low as HRC 40, some at 48-50. What would be a good choice for bladesmithing? I think my budget would only allow for $500-600 max. Also, i was curious about opinions on new anvils... is there a particular brand that is favored? I'm still keeping an eye out for a decent used anvil in my area, but that could be a long wait... they seem few and far between. Thanks for any input!

-Mark
 
I suggest you get in touch with the Upper Midwest Blacksmith's Association and perhaps find people in your area to help in your search for an anvil. On the events page at their website, you will notice the have an event scheduled in Pontiac in July.
There's also an Illinois Valley Blacksmith Association which may have members in your area, too.
 
If your going to forge blades, DO NOT skimp on your anvil. Stay away from the el cheapo cast iron models....they will work you to death, and within a couple of months will be "swaybacked" and useless. My personal favorite anvils are Trenton. I have three of them in the shop, all are wrought iron bodies with steel faces. I also own two Kolishwa anvils, which are one piece cast steel, and are very efficient. With the budget you mentioned, its gona be tough purchasing a good, new anvil. BUT.... you might want to look at the Emerson anvils from Emerson Horseshoe supply in Louisiana....they are very fairly priced, and I have worked on several...all were very nice to work on.

Another brand of new anvil that I can suggest looking at is Nimba. They are out of Washington state.

As far as size, my opinion is that 125lb anvil is the minimum that I would have for bladesmithing. As to the hardness, I would be inclined to get one that has a face in the Rc 50-55 range. Something to be consicous of is the hardness of your anvil face versus the hardness of the hammer(s) you use. Your going to occasionally make a mis-strike, and if your hammer is harder than the anvil, it will leave a dent/ding in the anvil face, which is a royal pain to fix. I always use hammers that are softer than the anvil...that way when I do make a mis-strike, I can easily reface the hammer, rather than have to go through the huge amount of time and effort it takes to repair a ding in the anvil face.

I know you said that used anvils are not common around your part of the world, but don't give up. A fella in Idaho put an add in his local paper for used anvils....he got covered up with calls, and wound up buying several, and then sold them for a good profit. He also came across a 250lb gem that he kept for himself.

Those are my thoughts, and I hope others chime in too,
 
Thanks Fitzo. That's good info. Pontiac is fairly close, might have to trek up there and check it out. Maybe I'm getting the carriage in front of the horse here as far as getting equipment first. I'll look into the UMBA and IVBA... Thanks again!

-Mark
 
Thanks Ed... After some initial pricing, I am a little concerned about the price range I've afforded myself for an anvil.. I may be able to spend more. One thing I hate to do is spend good money on tools that will be ineffective or I'll quickly outgrow. The 125# minimum is good advice. I did find some good info about hammer vs. anvil hardness. I appreciate the feedback, and I'm going to re-evaluate what i should spend. I guess the heat treating oven can wait a few more months...

-Mark
 
I use a 90# Sea Robin anvil, it's a Japanese style cutler's anvil. It rebounds like a much large anvil due to all the mass directly under the anvil face (5 1/2" square). A quality anvil is a tool that will last for generations, a good anvil is a joy to work on, a poor anvil is a good way to build big arms and a bad attitude :p
 
Hey Will.... that is very well said about a poor anvil! I've gotta file that one away for future use!
 
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